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Cathymjp
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Grandma Nellie Greatorex aged 4
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I am trying to find out when my great uncle arrived in Australia. I know he was there in May 1913 and I have been checking the passenger lists I could find online, however, the ones I have accessed do not seem to be very detailed after 1900. Am I looking in the right places? Any help would be much appreciated.
My Great Uncle's name was Andrew Edwin Noden.
Cathy 
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Cazay
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Hi Cathy
This period in Australian Immigration is not readily available online. The PRO of Victoria have unassisted immigration 1852-1923 but your relative is not listed there.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/default.htm
The National Archives of Australia have a service record for Andrew Edwin Noden, have you seen this yet? His digitised records are available for viewing online.
www.naa.gov.au (go to Recordsearch, then search as guest and enter his name in search window)
Hope this will help you along
Cazay 
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukEssex; Livermore, Barker Norfolk; Wood, Lack, Spurgeon, Long Wiltshire; Ricketts, Sealey, Dew Lincs; Drage Cumberland; McNicol, Bowman Lancashire; Brogden, Davis NSW, Inverell; Ricketts, Robinson Carcoar; Robinson, Thurtell, Wood Braidwood; Simpson, Brogden St Marys; Carpenter, Tolhurst, Dredge, Beahan Bathurst; Bayliss |
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Crazy Robert
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Hi Cathy,
This is what Cazza was saying OK
use this link for Andrew Edwin Noden: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ItemDetail.asp?M=0&B=8002326
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCoble or Covell, Coule Australia, Canada, USA @ England.
Barker Australia @ England
Walker Australia, England @ South America.
Bristol Australia @ England.
Nash Australia @ England.
Wildman @ Australia.
many more other Names.
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Cathymjp
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Grandma Nellie Greatorex aged 4
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Hi Cazay and Ozybob.
Thank you both very much for your help. I have actually downloaded his service record, very interesting was thrilled when I found it. I have also been very fortunate in finding out about his life there thanks to a lady in a Historical Society, but this is the last piece in the jigsaw. I do not know when he left England but have a postcard dated May 1913 written to his mother (my great grandmother). I did wonder whether the lists from 1900 were not yet available - the search will continue.
Cathy 
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trish251
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Hi Cathy
Have you seen his death certificate? It could given information on approximate year of arrival and list which states he had lived in (this assumes the informant knew the information). May help to pinpoint his arrival. I know that in my state (Qld) there are many more shipping lists available at the archives than are listed online.
Trish
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Cathymjp
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Hi Trish,
I have a copy of his death certificate but cannot see this information on it. He seems to have stayed in New South Wales but it could be he landed in another state and travelled to NSW.
Thanks for your help
Cathy
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trish251
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Hi Cathy
I was thinking of the column headed
Where born and how long in the Australian (or Australasian) Colonies or states
- but you seem to have used this information anyway knowing he probably came directly to NSW
Trish
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Cathymjp
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Hi Trish,
On looking at his death certificate it says in the relevant column that he was in N.SW. for 17 years which means it would have been around 1912 when he arrived (if he landed in N.S.W.). Thanks for telling me about this column I had missed the 17 years bit on the bottom! These certificates are more detailed than the ones in the UK.
Cathy
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trish251
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These certificates are more detailed than the ones in the UK
We have to be good at something over here 
If no other state gets a mention, then as far as the informant knew - that was the only place he lived in Australia.
Trish
I have a CD from the Soc Aus Gen - and checked as it sometimes has shipping information - there was a reference to your man - but it was burial details only
9 Sept 1929 Leeton - Do you have a transcript from the cemetery? You can buy them or find someone to visit SAG office (It is in Sydney)
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Cazay
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Hi Cathy
Found this in the Leeton cemetery listings, Church of England, Section 1
In loving memory of Andrew Edward Noden died 9 September 1929 aged 38 years
Cazay
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukEssex; Livermore, Barker Norfolk; Wood, Lack, Spurgeon, Long Wiltshire; Ricketts, Sealey, Dew Lincs; Drage Cumberland; McNicol, Bowman Lancashire; Brogden, Davis NSW, Inverell; Ricketts, Robinson Carcoar; Robinson, Thurtell, Wood Braidwood; Simpson, Brogden St Marys; Carpenter, Tolhurst, Dredge, Beahan Bathurst; Bayliss |
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Cathymjp
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Grandma Nellie Greatorex aged 4
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Hi Trish and Cazay,
Thank you both very much for your help. I have the entries for his death, and also a photograph of his grave. A local historian in NSW has helped me a great deal with his life as a farmer in Leeton. It is only the date and ship he sailed on which is the missing piece of the jigsaw now.
Cathy
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trish251
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Hi Cathy
It seems from this Archives in Brief description - the NSW archives is where you need to look (which you probably already knew  )
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/archives_in_brief_1_365.asp
Unassisted passengers (also known as free settlers) paid their own way to New South Wales. State Records holds records of free settlers from 1792-1922. Most of these records relate to free settlers arriving in Sydney.
It would seem the records for the later period may not yet be indexed - there may be more information available on the archives web site.
State Records holds records of assisted immigrants from 1828-96
I'm not sure where you will find details of assisted immigrants for your time period - maybe they stopped for awhile until the feds took over ?
Sorry I haven't been more help
Trish
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Cathymjp
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Hi Trish,
Thank you for posting the link to the archive in NSW - I had not found that one. Very grateful to all rootschatters who have helped me piece my great uncle's history together. Should I find this information I will keep you posted.
Cathy
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