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BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« on: Wednesday 06 December 06 20:52 GMT (UK) »

Hello everyone,

I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather called HARRY LESLIE BUTCHER as well as my Great Grandmother, ROSE ELIZABETH EMILY LONG

They were both born in Tendring in 1909 and later got married also in Tendring in 1935. They had 3 children.

I dont know my Grandfather as he left my father when he was very small so this part of my family tree is very bare! So any help or info would be much appreciated and I would so much like to hear from you.

Thanks in advance.

Lee  Wink

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I have just received the BCs of Harry and Rose.

Harry's parents were Ernest Charles Butcher and Annie Jacobs

Rose's parents were John Henry Long and Martha Cardy

So if anyone has any info or has some connection then please dont hesistate to get in touch!  Wink
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Tendring
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 December 06 15:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lee,

Have you sent for copies of their birth certificates? These will give you information about their parents.

Harry Leslie Butcher   June 1909  Tendring  4a 799

Rose Elizabeth E  Long   June 1909  Tendring 4a 777

Good luck,

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Re: BUTCHER Family from Tendring
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 December 06 15:56 GMT (UK) »

Hello Lee
I assume you would like to find Harry and Rose's ancestors, in which case it would be useful to find their families on the 1901 census.  To do that we need to have some idea of their parents' names.  Do you have either of their birth certificates? Or their marriage certificate (as this will give fathers' names).
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Tendring
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 December 06 15:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jan,

Coincidently, I sent off for them today from Colchester Reg Office.

I didnt give them the page ref as the lady there said she didnt need them so we will soon see the outcome!

Lee


Hello Lee
I assume you would like to find Harry and Rose's ancestors, in which case it would be useful to find their families on the 1901 census.  To do that we need to have some idea of their parents' names.  Do you have either of their birth certificates? Or their marriage certificate (as this will give fathers' names).
Barbara

Hi Barbara,
I will soon get bk to you all once the above BCs come bk.
You replied before i could send a reply  Grin

Thanks for your interest thou! I have only been on Roots for 2 days and you have all been so helpful!

Lee
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Tendring
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 December 06 16:00 GMT (UK) »

Lee,

Colchester will use different references for the births; the ones I gave you were from the GRO records.

Happy hunting!

Nanny Jan
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Tendring
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 December 06 16:02 GMT (UK) »

cheers Jan  Wink
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 14:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I recieved the BCs this morning and I didnt realize they would come thru so quickly!

I have amended the names in the first post, so these names may help me tracing back my tree further  Cheesy

Cheers for looking

Lee
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 15:46 GMT (UK) »

Lee,

Now you have the names of all four parents you can look for their marriage certificates!  Each new certificate usually gives you more information.

Good luck,

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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 16:52 GMT (UK) »

That was good service Lee!
Let us know if you need any help.
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 20:10 GMT (UK) »

Marriages Sep 1896
Butcher  Ernest Charles  Lexden  4a  1005
Jacobs   Annie           Lexden  4a  1005


Births Jun 1909
Butcher  Harry Leslie      Tendring     4a  799



Marriages Dec 1908
Long   John     Tendring   4a   1198
Cardy  Martha   Tendring   4a   1198


Births Jun 1909
Long   Rose Elizabeth E     Tendring   4a  777


Find only one marriageable Martha Cardy in 1901.
She is servant in London, but b. Wormingford, Essex.

1891 Wormingford, Essex   RG12 1416 73 p10

South Road, Opposite Church
Arthur Cardy, head, mar, 38, Ag Lab, b. Wormingford
Emma Cardy, wife, mar, 39, b. Gt Clacton
James Cardy, son, unm, 16, Apprentice to Wheelwright, b. Wormingford
Charles Cardy, son, 14, Ag Lab, b. Wormingford
William Cardy, son, 12, Ag Lab, b. Wormingford
Albert Cardy, son, 9, Scholar, b. Wormingford
Martha Cardy, dau, 7, Scholar, b. Wormingford
Herbert Cardy, son, 5, Scholar, b. Wormingford
Samuel Cardy, son, 3, b. Wormingford


1901 Thorrington, Essex   RG13 1704 81 p13

St Osyth Road
Arthur Cardy, head, mar, 46, Horseman on Farm, b. Wormingford
Emma Cardy, wife, mar, 47, b. Great Clacton
Herbert Cardy, son, 15, Horseman on Farm, b. Wormingford
Samuel Cardy, son, 13, Ag Lab, b. Wormingford
Walter C Cardy, son, 6, Scholar, b. Wormingford


1901 Great Clacton, Essex   RG13 1695 36 p33

St Anns Road, Osmonde Villa
William Long, head, mar, 50, Gas Fitter, b. Devizes, Wilts
Matilda Long, wife, mar, 40, b. Clacton
John H Long, son, unm, 20, Plumber, b. Clacton
Thomas F Long, son, 14, Plumbers Lab, b. Clacton
Charles P Long, son, 11 mo, b. Clacton


Regards   CP
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:13 GMT (UK) »

Wow thanks CEP! alot more info in that short space of time than I got just trying to find info on Ernest Butcher! I did manage to find the marriage of Ernest and Annie thou!

Its my first time I have had free run of the Census' on Ancestry and I can honestly say ... i'm rubbish!  Huh I cant even find Ernest on the 1901 census so that I can see who his children were! It makes it harder when his son, Harry, was born in 1909 so i have no indication to which EC Butcher it is!  Roll Eyes

Has anyone got any tips to help this nOOb out ?  Sad

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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:26 GMT (UK) »

Well Lee, I'm struggling to find Ernest too and I am definitely not rubbish  Grin
Do you have his occupation from the birth certificate as that will help narrow down any possibilities.
If you can't find someone on the census you can try just using a first name only plus place of birth and/or approx age.  This helps track the ones where the surname has been mistranscribed.
If the person has more than one forename it is worth trying the other names too.  Also forenames are often mis-spelt or spelt differently from what you expect eg Harriet/Harriett/Harriott or Ernest/Earnest!
Will keep looking for you but the occupation would be useful. Maybe we can find him then on the 1891.
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:28 GMT (UK) »

Have no idea if it's who you are looking for but there is a BIRTCHER family in Brightlingsea Undecided

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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:30 GMT (UK) »

Oh thats a relief Barbara, i thought i was gonna be bad from the start!
On the birth Cert it says he is Gasworks Stoker ... sounds interesting!

I am still searching too, i dont give up that easily!  Grin
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Re: BUTCHER Family from Essex *UPDATE*
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 December 06 21:31 GMT (UK) »

Have no idea if it's who you are looking for but there is a BIRTCHER family in Brightlingsea Undecided

Casalguidi

I saw this too but was unsure whether its is a mistranscribe or another family with that actual name  Huh

cheers for your help thou, much appreciated
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Names that I am Very Interested in:
BUTCHER (Kent)
BUTCHER, LONG, JACOBS & CARDY (Essex)
LEWIS (Shropshire/Shrewsbury/Montgomeryshire)
BRAGG (London/Surrey)
GODDEN (Middlesex/Berkshire)
PRITCHARD (West Midlands)
JACKSON (West Midlands/Shropshire)
Drop me a PM if ya have any details, info or queries!
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