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MonicaLesl
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One more go before I go to bed to find James Robertson in 1861...the best fit assuming he is still in Dundee following Rebecca's death there in 1859 is one possibility for a James, living alone:
James Robertson, Lin (tin?) smith, 47, living at No 8 Blanshall St, Dundee Second District, birth place.....................Edabo, Canonbiesh 
I give up on the index Brian, think you might need to look at the original image on Scotlands People to get his birth place in English.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Gadget
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Brian 
Because Monica and I hate to let things defeat us, I've downloaded the 1861 census images that she found the reference to.
Here it is. It looks to me like Edinbroshire, Edinbro, which I assume is Edinburgh but he didn't know the county 
Gadget
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bervonian
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I'm certain that Gadget has solved it. The county of Midlothian used to be known as Edinburghshire.
Bervonian.
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Gadget
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Now to find a death - I wonder where or when. I've already had a good look. Being a tinsmith, he might have moved away. Maybe 1871 census first.
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Gadget
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There are a few too many in the 1871 to really be sure of, especially as we don't have a firmish birthdate.
We have two birth estimates for him - in 1851 he was down as 44 - b.c. 1807 and 1861 down as 47 - b.c. 1814
Looking at deaths, 1861 to 1900 in Dundee, we have:
1868 aged 59 St Andrew b.c. 1809
1870 aged 55 St Andrew b.c. 1815
1873 aged 61 St Andrew b.c.1812
1875 aged 63 St Andrew b.c. 1812
1878 aged 63 St Peter b.c.1815
1884 aged 74 St Mary b.1810
1891 aged 82 St Andrew b. 1809
I'm not too familiar with the various Dundee districts - St Andrew, St Peter,St Mary. I do have a map somewhere but which is the most likely?
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brc
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Hello,
Thanks again for all your help. I am new to Scottish research. Don't know Dundee at all. By the way, where did you get the info re-Rebecca dying of fever in Dundee Royal Infirmary? I understand it can be obtained from the ScotlandsPeople site but you have to pay don't you.
I could not find James Robertson in the 1881 Census, so I assume he died before then.
Edinburgh looks increasingly likely to be his birth place.
I think it would be a lot better if the people who transcribed the Census info for 41/51/61 had some basic knowledge of our language - I have just seen someone's job transcribed as a piang tuner!!
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Brian
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Gadget
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A piang tuner - now a piang is a very special type of bagpie that is now obsolete
 
I went int to Scotlands People and used up some spare units to get Rebecca's death cert.
It's the only way unless you live in Edinburgh or are near a local centre.
I'll PM you.
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MonicaLesl
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Re transcriptions on Ancestry for the Scottish censuses, have a look at this link:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,199276.0.html. It would seem that OCR (optical character recognition) software has been used to transcribe the censuses from the original films as such these transcription issues are here to stay (not sure if Ancestry will spend the time/money tidying up (correcting!) the databases).
There are three sons showing for James and Rebecca on IGI, have you got details of these?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Brian
If you haven't done any research in Scotland before, there are two useful guides here on RootsChat that would be good for you to read at this point:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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brc
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Hello,
Thanks again for your very kind help. I have noticed the 3 sons on the IGI.
I will look up the websites you recommend, and thank you for the Rebecca death info.
I will keep plodding onwards and upwards.
Kind regards,
Brian
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