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Adrian Beardsley
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Hi
I'm looking for information about my step Great Granfather, Frank David Organ. Frank would have been born in about 1890 or so. Frank was married to my Great Grandmother Lilly (nee Extence, Meatyard). Frank was a carpenter by trade as was his father David (apparently a well known carpenter/builder in Oxford in the early 1900s). His mother was Ellen (Nelly?)
Frank had at least one brother. Other members of the Organ family included Susan, John and Andrew. As far as my mother can remember they lived on Cowley Road in Oxford.
I am piecing together Frank's history in the hope that I can provide information for the Australian Light Horse Association and the Australian War memorial.
Frank served in the Queen's Own Oxford Hussars before joining the 4th Australian Light Horse in Australia in 1914. He served at Gallipoli, was involved in the famous charge on horseback at Beersheba and won a Distinguished Conduct Medal for bravery during the taking of Damascus.
He was one of only a handful of men from Australia to be involved in all three events and to survive them.
Frank returned to England after WW1 where he married my Great Grandmother. He built a house for her on the corner of Divinity Road in the early 1920's. Frank was injured in a skating accident at Blenheim Park perhaps in the late 1920's and died soon after.
I would appreciate any information about Frank or about where I might locate living relatives. I am particularly interested in whether there any photos or letters still in existence. He appears to have written to his mother (Ellen) on many occasions. I can confirm the whereabouts of his medal and a few postcards and photos that have been handed down through my family.
With hope.... and thanks
Adrian Beardsley :-)
Tasmania, Australia.
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suzard
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Hello Adrian,
It looks like Frank David was actually David Frank!!!
Birth reg free BMD
Dec qtr 1886
Headington District (oxfordshire)
David frank Organ
Vol 3a page 775
1891
St Clements oxford
91 Cowley Rd
David Organ head 34 Employer (builder) Gloucester N Nibley
Ellen wife 36 Oxfoed St Clements
Ellen daughter 11 Oxford St Clements
Eva daughter 10 Oxford St Clements
Marian daughter 9 Oxford St Clements
Thomas J son 7 Oxford St Clements
DAVID F. son 4 Oxford St Clements
John Durran Visitor U 43 Printer Compositer Northampton Passenham
RG12 1165 16 26
will look in 1901
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Adrian Beardsley
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Hi Suz
I really appreciate you're email!
WOW! 
Not sure what this means. Maybe a mistake?? On all his service papers he is definitely Frank David.
Cheers
Adrian :-)
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Can't find Frank in 1901, but have rest of family
1901
Nibley green Gloucester (next door to Kings head Inn)
(head of household transcribed as Camm-could be Camine??)
George camm head 49 farmer employer Glos Coaley
Annie Eliza wife 49 Glos Coaley
Sarah louise 24 Glos berkley
Amy Olivia 22 Glos berkley
Margaret A 20 North Nibley
George V 19 Farmers son worker North Nibley
Thomas 13 N Nibley
Wilfred 11 N Nibley
DAVID ORGAN visitor 43 Builder employer N Nibley
ELLEN ORGAN visitor 45 Warwicks leamington
RG13 2414 128 9
they must have left the children at home -and maybe frank got missed off the census???
1901
Micklewood Rd (next house to 291 Cowley Rd) Oxford
(no head of family )
Ellen E organ daughter 21 telephone Operator GPO
Eva daughter 20
marian daughter 19
Thomas J 17 Builder's Clerk
Andrew F 7
John nephew Builders Clerk
and next door
Kenilworth House
(no head of family)
Harry organ son 26 Builder
Cassie daughter 20
Lilley daughter 19
William son 16
Ernest son 14
frederick son10
reginald son 8
herbert son 2
Jane Hodge Servant 18 general servant
all b. Oxford
RG13 1379 55 40
frank's parents in 1881
10 Union St Cowley oxford
David Organ 24 Carpenter Glos N Nibley
Ellen 26 Warwicks leamington
Ellen 1 oxford
Eva 5 months Oxford
RG11 1497 104 41
Marriage FreeBMD
Jun qtr 1878 headington district
on same page Ellen Durran
David organ
3a 900
1871 David organ age 14 was a servant to the Vicar of north Nibley
Looks like Frank's grandfather was also a carpenter -Grandparent's were Thomas/Ann -both b Gloucester Thomas was a Sawyer and Ann a shopkeeper
you may find the Organs in Historical Directories.
Probably Frank's death would have been reported in a local newspaper
Suz
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Adrian Beardsley
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Hi Suz
Thank you! I really appreciate you're efforts!
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suzard
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The birth reg -David Frank organ - would be the name on his birth certificate.
Thought it may be useful to mention that, as others researching the same family may have his name as David -and may dimiss having Frank in their tree
Do you require any earlier census with parents/grandparents on?
Suz
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By the way -there are quite a few people on genes Reunited who have david organ b. North Nibley in their tree!!
You may find descendants that way
Suz
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Adrian Beardsley
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My word it's very early in the morning for you to be doing all this for me!! 
Thanks for your offer. I think the next step for me is to try to locate any living relatives.
Cheers
Adrian
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Adrian Beardsley
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Suz
Can you give me a web address for genes Reunited?
Thanks
Adrian
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www.genesreunited.co.uk
On RootChat there is a poster "criggy" who has put a post on the Gloucester board for information on a Richard Organ -no replies yet, but you never know there may be a connection???
Suz
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Maggott
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Hi I've just seen the posts about the Organ family - one of the last of the Organs - Violet - lived across the road from me. She died - in her nineties- a couple of years ago. The family had moved to Woodstock (near Oxford) when her father retired. He must have been one of the Organ childen on C1901
Maggott
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yattonharry
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Hi there, My grand-children are surnamed ORGAN and are direct descendants of the Organ's that you speak of.
There are loads of people doing research on this family, and a book has been printed on them - the Unitarian Organ Family - by Andrew Plaster. Andrew is writing another book which concerns the Organ family of Oxford from some research that I and others have done.
My website is at: http://goldenridge-genealogy.co.uk contact me if you wish to contact Andrew and others.
Harry
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WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsearbren
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.
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yattonharry
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Adrian, I am glad that you have contacted Andrew now, so he tells me in a message this morning.
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WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsearbren
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.
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JaniceHB
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I wonder if you would kindly put me in touch with Andrew Plaster?
My grandmother was Gladys Organ (born 1896) who was Violet's cousin. She lived with an aunt in Bristol from the age of 7 until 18 where she was taught music by Ivor Novello's mother M Davies and at 17 achieved the status of LRAM after her name. She performed and taught music in Oxford until her marriage.
Gladys married Reginald Oliver Somerton from Clevedon and they had just one daughter Betty Annie Sarah who is now 82.
We are both be very interested in the Organ family history and the books which have been written.
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yattonharry
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Hi there,
Andrew is at andrew[at]plaster5178.fsnet.co.uk
Change the at of course
Jill
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WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsearbren
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.
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