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mellowyellow
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would anyone look up the hertfordshire mercury papers which are stored in HALS for me? I am trying to find the birth/death of my Grandfather Charles Albert/Edward GRAVES. He died in the 60's and was found in a ditch in hertfordshire so i thought maybe there would be something mentioned in the papers about his death which would lead me to his birth. He lived 20 Page Road Gallows Hill. I live in Wales and cant get there. Cant get any further with my dads side until i sort this. Thanks
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mellowyellow
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Hi Sue yes have his marriage cert but i cant find him under that name on the births or the death index. On his marriage cert his name is Charles Albert Graves on my fathers marriage cert his name is Charles Edward Graves but have looked for both and cannot find
Jan
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janan
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Hi Jan
Welcome to Rootschat 
Roughly when would he have been born? No Male Graves about the right time? I'll have another look for you - you never know another pair of eyes 
Jan  (another one)
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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mellowyellow
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Hi jan would be appreciated. if marriage cert is correct would be 1896
Jan
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janan
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Hi again
I know this flings yet another second name into the pot but there is this young man 
Charles Stewart Graves Jul qtr 1896 Hertford Vol 3a Pg 578
Don't know whether you have this - the only Hertfordshire candidate in 1901
158 Bengeo? St Hertford
George Wren Head M 61 Cowman Herts Slandon
Eliza do Wife 65 Herts Ware
Esther Graves Dau Wid 35 do do
Mary Wren Dau S 20 do Bengeo
Clara do Dau S 18 do do
Clara Graves Granddau 12 do do
Edward do Grandson 6 do do
Charles do do 4 do do
Ivy do Granddau 9 mnths Hertford
Winifred Wren grandau 3mnths Bengeo
RG13/1305/47 Pg18
In 1891 Esther is married to Frederic Graves Butcher - is that right father?
Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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mellowyellow
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This is the family that i think is my grandfathers as my dad told me that his grandmother-he didnt know her name- wasnt married to the man she lived with (this man was a Mr Wilkinson) and there is a wilkinson living nearby whose wife dies. Also he remembered an Ivy Wilkinson who married a Cast. I sent for Ivy Graves birth and marriage cert but her father is not named on either certificate. However on my grandfathers marriage cert his father is down as charles but his occupation was a butcher! I have the marriage cert of Esther Graves nee Wren and her husband was a Frederick Graves not Charles. I just cant make that link. Have also looked at Charles Stewart Graves and think i will have to send for birth cert to satisfy my curiosity but that is bringing another name into it! Many thanks for searching for me it helps to get someone elses point of view in case i miss something Jan
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mellowyellow
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Forgot to say that the Ivy Graves in that family does marry a Cast!
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janan
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Looks like you're on the right track then. Maybe Frederick was known as Charles - or what about the mysterious Mr Wilkinson? Your Grandfather may have got confused as to which man was his father? Or it could just have been a mistake - and Charles just written down twice for father and son. Another thought when did Esther marry - could Charles have arrived before and be registered as a Wren?
Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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