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Lilygirl
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1891 census lookup please Papworth
« on: Thursday 14 December 06 06:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,

Am hoping to find James Papworth in 1891 census only.
Born about 1826 Hartford, Hunts.

Am guessing he's with wife Mary A Papworth who was born about 1830 Hartford also.


Thanks in advance,
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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 December 06 07:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lilygirl
1891
James Papworth head mar 65 market gardener Hunts Hartford
Mary        "          wife mar 61                                   "         "
Edward   "           son u/m 20       gardener              "          "
Jane Smith servant u/m 13 domestic serv            Huntingdon
Edward Childs servant u/m 16 gardener             Hunts Hartford
living at High Street, Hartford, Hunts
Rg12/ 1237
folio 77
page 3

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 December 06 06:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ricky,
Thanks for the lookup.

Can someone please find them in 1901 as well?
I know James was still alive then not sure about the others yet.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 December 06 07:32 GMT (UK) »

In 1901 living in Fulham, London

RG13/61; Folio 122; Page 47

Arthur H Stirling, head, age 44, born Geasley, Notts ; Carpenter
Lydia Stirling, wife, age 46 , born Hartford, Hunts
Helen Cunningham, boarder, age 18, born Dublin  ; Artists model
Isabell G Stirling, daughter, age 13, born Fulham
James Papworth, father, age 79, married ?,  born Hartford, Hunts ; farmer
Cyril P Harrison, son, age 26, born Exeter, Devon ; correspondance clerk
Rebecca Jolly, servant, age 29, born Fulham ; Domestic servant

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 December 06 07:40 GMT (UK) »

Found this but not too sure if she's who you want.

In 1901 living in New Town, Ramsey, Hunts

RG13/1470; Folio 51; Page 12.

John A Papworth, head, age 29, born Somersham ; Ag Lab
Phoebe Papworth, wife, age 35, born Burwell, Cambs
John Wm Papworth, son, age 7
Ethel Papworth, daughter, age 5
Gertrude A Papworth, daughter, age 2
Mary Ann Papworth, mother, age 68, widow, born Somersham

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 December 06 07:45 GMT (UK) »

cannot find an Edward Papworth, born 1871 on 1901

but there is a FreeBMD death index of Edward Papworth in Sept 1896 at Huntingdon RD vol 3b page 141.
He was age 24.

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 December 06 07:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi John,

Fabulous that solves Lydia's married name - splendid.

Can you please please find Lydia Stirling in 1891
She was in Durham in 1881 if that helps.
Can't seem to find her in 1871 either.

Thanks in advance, this is exciting!

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 December 06 08:00 GMT (UK) »

1891 Census England
RG12/45/118/13
60 Lillie Road

STERLING
Arthur Head Marr 33 Carpenter Notts Barfield
Lydia Wife Marr 35 Hunts Hartford
Emily PAPWORTH Sister Unamrr 23 Florist Hunts Hartford
Libbie ALEXANDER Niece Unmarr 2 London Fulham
Frances AUDLEY Servant Unmarr 16 Servant Hunts Braughton

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 December 06 08:04 GMT (UK) »

1871 Census England London Paddington St John Paddington
RG10/26/17/26
36 Queens Gardens

In service in the house of James HITCHINS Retired Coroner, and his wife Amelia< Lady Superior of her school,

PAPWORTH Lydia Serv Unmarr 16 Servant General Hatsford Huntingdonshire

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 December 06 08:04 GMT (UK) »

well done KarenLee - just beat me  Cheesy

now find daughter Isabell b 1888 Fulham
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 December 06 08:10 GMT (UK) »

FreeBMD marriage index of Arthur Henry Stirling to Lydia Papworth in Dec 1886 at Lambeth RD vol 1d page 844c .
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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 December 06 21:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Is it possible to find Isabel Stirling in 1891 census.

There's a Libbie Alexander age 2 with Lydia in 1891 but it says niece? born Fulham, London.
Isn't any Libbie Alexanders in the 1901 aged about 12 is there? I'm guessing not!


Am just wondering what's going on here. I guess Libbie could be short for Isabel? bit of a mystery because if Lydia married in 1886 she could have easily had her in 1888 but just doesn't seem to fit does it.


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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 December 06 22:10 GMT (UK) »

Hi just me again

Another addition just realised there's a William Papworth in 1881 with
Lydia who was with her sister Margaret Marshall and husband and another sister Annie also.

States William Papworth age 5 (makes him born about 1876ish) born Exeter, Devon.
Can we find William above in 1891 and 1901 please.

Lydia had brothers Charles 1862, Henery 1866, William 1870, Edward 1872 I haven't accounted for properly (who could be father I guess and there's a sister too) but might post for them in another post so not as confusing!
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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 December 06 00:33 GMT (UK) »

Libbie could be Tibbie, but that doesn't help much does it??

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Re: 1891 census lookup please Papworth
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 19 December 06 00:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi Karen,!

Have you found a Tibbie? lol
that sounds funny!
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