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Topic: 1841 Census Lookup - HARDING (Read 635 times)
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angela wade
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I would like any information on the immediate family of Thomas Harding born 1831 in Abdon shropshire
Thanks Angela
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CaroleW
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Hi
There is nothing in Shropshire. The 1841 does not show any birthplaces - just whether they were born in the county in which they were living in 1841.
I found this entry in Warwickshire - he was not born there. All surname Harding. Y means born Warwick - N means elsewhere
Address was William St Birmingham
James 30 N mechanic
Eliza 30 N
Thomas 10 N
Elizabeth 8 N
Sarah 4 Y
William 2 Y
John 15 months Y
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angela wade
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thanks for info. Did this Thomas go onto marry Emma Futrill?
Angela
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CaroleW
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I have no idea. I just checked the 1841 as per your request
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Lloydy
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From FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Marriages
June Quarter 1856
Thomas Harding, and on the same page, Emma Futrill
District: Upton on Severn**
Volume: 6c
Page: 393
** click this link for details on Upton on Severn Registration District http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/upton%20on%20severn.html
I would suggest that you purchase the marriage certificate, using the above reference, from the General Register Office http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
You will be able to confirm Thomas's father and then be able to claim the 1841 census entry that Carole found as yours!!
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Lloydy
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Have you found Thomas and Emma in any of the later census? If not, I can let you have all the details?
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angela wade
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thanks for info on marriage details much appreciated. I have traced william and emma on the 1881 census, but not as yet on any others. Any details would be much appreciated
Angela
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Lloydy
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OK, here we go..................
1901
RG13/2516 Folio 16 Page 4 - Wheathill, Cleobury Mortimer
Thomas Harding Head M 68 Farm Labourer born Abdon Salop
Emma Harding Wife M 64 born Stottesdon Salop
Lizzie Harding Dau S 24 (worker at home) born Wheathill Salop
Emma Harding Dau S 21 (worker at home) born Wheathill Salop
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Lloydy
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1861
RG9/1847 folio 17 page 5 - Beesom Cottage, Wheathill
Thomas Harding Head M 30 Agricultural Labourer born Salop Tugford
Emma Harding Wife M 25 born Salop Stottesdon
William Harding Son 5 born Salop Stottesdon
Charles Harding Son 2 born Salop Wheathill
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1891
RG12/2092 folio 15 page 4 - Cold Green, Wheathill, Cleobury Mortimer
Thomas Harding Head M 54 Gardener born Salop Abdon
Emma Harding Wife M 54 born Salop Stottesdon
John Harding Son S 18 Helps the Father born Salop Wheathill
Lizzie Harding Dau S 15 born Salop Wheathill
Emma Harding Dau 11 Scholar born Salop Wheathill
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1871
RG10/2739 folio 17 page 5 - Beeson, Wheathill, Cleobury Mortimer
Note: The enumerator has spelt the name HARDIN
Thomas Hardin Head M 56 Labourer born Salop Aabdon
Emma Hardin Wife M 59 born Salop Stottesdon
Charles Hardin Son 12 Labourer born Salop Wheathill
Mary Ann Hardin Dau 10 born Salop Wheathill
Sarah Jane Hardin Dau 7 born Salop Wheathill
Ellen Hardin Dau 3 born Salop Wheathill
Thomas Hardin Son 11 months born Salop Wheathill
Transcribed as HARDEN on the Ancestry Index 
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Lloydy
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You've got 1881, so just looking at the 1851................... 
In the meantime, click on this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/011b/ which is a map that shows you how close Abdon and Wheathill are in South Shropshire. Stottesdon (Emma's place of birth) is just off the map, but is situated about 5 miles East of Wheathill.
I'm wondering why Thomas and Emma got married in Upon on Severn (that's assuming it's the right marriage I found), if they're both from South Shropshire 
It might be a good idea to get one of the birth certificates of the children to confirm Mum's maiden name.
Here's the birth record for Mary Ann:
Births December Quarter 1860
District: Cleobury Mortimer (which covers Wheathill)
Volume: 6a
Page: 501
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Lloydy
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1851 is proving to be a little more difficult. There is a Thomas Harding of the right age living with parents in Madeley. Shropshire. The birthplace is showing as Clun, which is the roughly the right area, but I'm not certain that it's correct.
Anyway, before we can find him further back I suggest you do the following:
- Purchase birth certificate for the daughter Mary Ann to confirm Mum's maiden name
- Once we know maiden name, search for the correct marriage
- Purchase marriage certificate to confirm fathers' names
- Hopefully find the right families in the 1851 and 1841
I did have a look through the 1841 images for Abdon and there are no Harding families there, so they must have moved from the area.
Let me know what the birth certificate shows............I just hope you don't mind spending £7 
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angela wade
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thanks for info received very interesting. Another distant family member seems to have these addresses(wheathill) apart from 1851 address down as madeley. I will send for Williams birth certificate as he is the one I am related to. I will get back to you when received
Angela
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Lloydy
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OK Angela, will wait patiently 
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The fantastic restoration and colour of my Avatar picture was done by Rootschatter PolldollAshton, Beaton/Betton, Bennett, Breese/Breeze, Crisp, Chandler, Challenor/Challinor, Crisp, Davies, Hudson, James, Jarman, Jenkins, Jones, Lewis, Mills, Owen, Owens, Richards, Simon & Trow - My Welsh ancestors from Montgomeryshire.
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