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Topic: Fergusons of Lairg/Clyne early 1800s (Read 2447 times)
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ronashill
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Can anybody help with ancestors of George Egerton Ferguson, my great-great-grandfather? He was born on 20 Feb 1845 to John Ferguson and Anne Ferguson (MacLeod). I think John was born on 20 Aug 1813 to Hugh and Margaret (Munro).
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John
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MonicaLesl
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Hi John
A big Christmas welcome to RootsChat 
As always with these things, verification of someone's parents, in this case from John Ferguson's death certificate, is important to be 100% sure that you have the correct parents.
Supporting your theory however is the 1851 Census entry for John and Ann:
John Ferguson 37, Gamekeeper, b. Clyne, Sutherland
Anne Ferguson 31,`b. Clyne, Sutherland
Hugh Ferguson 8, b. Lairg, Sutherland
George Ferguson 6, b. Lairg, Sutherland
Margaret Ferguson 4, b. Lairg, Sutherland
Elizabeth Ferguson 2, b. Lairg, Sutherland
Neil Ferguson 1 Month, b. Lairg, Sutherland
Elisabeth Mathesen 20, house servant, b. Dornoch, Sutherland
Hugh Sutherland 65, visitor, blacksmith, b. Clque (?), Sutherland
Certainly, if they followed Scottish naming paterns, you would expect Ann McLeod's parents to be called George and Elizabeth perhaps. Again, if you have a look at Ann's death cert., this would confirm her parents' names.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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From the 1841 Census, this is the closest matching entry for John Ferguson. Everyone showing as born in the County:
John Ferguson, 25-29, Gamekeeper
Merson (female) Ferguson, 20-24
Angus Ferguson, 11
Address: Lairg Village, Lairg, Sutherland
The 1841 Census does not show relationships within a household. Ages for everyone over 15 are also rounded down to the nearest 5, ie John shows as born 1816 for example. Children under 15 are supposed to be written down with their actual age.
Regards.
Monica
Just realised I omitted the address for John and family on the 1851 Census: Wester Lairg, Lairg, Sutherland
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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The family are still at Western Lairg in 1861:
John Ferguson 47, gamekeeper
Ann Ferguson 39
George Ferguson 16
Margaret Ferguson 14
Betsy Ferguson 12
John Ferguson 10
Neil Ferguson 10
Janet Ferguson 8
Francis Ferguson 3
Henrietta Gordon 20, domestic servant
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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From IGI, births/christening entries for John and Ann's children. All entries in Lairg:
1. HUGH FERGUSON Christening: 15 APR 1842
2. NIEL FERGUSON FERGUSON Birth: 18 JUL 1843
3. GEORGE EGERTON FERGUSON Birth: 21 JAN 1845/ Christening: 20 FEB 1845
4. MARGARET FERGUSON Birth: 23 SEP 1846/ Christening: 10 OCT 1846
5. ELIZABETH FERGUSON Birth: 18 NOV 1848/ Christening: 01 DEC 1848
6. NEIL FERGUSON Birth: 02 SEP 1850/ Christening: 11 SEP 1850 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland
7. JANET FERGUSON Birth: 18 FEB 1853/ Christening: 10 MAR 1853 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland
8. WILLIAM FERGUSON Birth: 14 JAN 1855 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland/ Death: 03 JUN 1856
9. FRANCIS EGERTON FERGUSON Birth: 01 JUN 1857 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland
10. JOHN FERGUSON Birth: 03 JUN 1860 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland
11. ANN ISABELLA FERGUSON Birth: 16 JUL 1863 Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland
With these details, and additional early births, a possible name change for Ann's father to Neil!
You have an 1855 birth cert. showing there (William's). The first year of official registration in Scotland and for one year only, the entries ran over two pages of the register with a wealth of additional info. In respect of birth certs, it will include ages of parents, when they married, father's occupation, where they were from, number of children they'd had up (alive/deceased)..... If you are going to view any birth cert. on Scotlands People, that's certainly one to go for!
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Every piece of info helps to build the picture 
There is an entry on IGI, an actual extract from the OPRs that would fit for Ann:
ANN MC LEOD Birth: 10 JAN 1820 Clyne, Sutherland, Scotland
Parents: Father: NEIL MC LEOD Mother: ELISABETH ROSS
Possible siblings showing on IGI:
1. JOHN MACLEOD Birth: 05 FEB 1835 Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
2. HUGH MACLEOD Birth: 03 OCT 1830 Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
3. WILLIAM MC LEOD Birth: 22 DEC 1822/ Christening: 24 DEC 1822 Clyne, Sutherland, Scotland
4. ISABELLA MAC LEOD Birth: 05 AUG 1837 Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
5. ELIZABETH MACLEOD Birth: 25 MAR 1833 Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
6. JAMES MACLEOD Birth: 28 JUL 1828 Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Neil and Elizabeth in 1851 Census:
Niel MacLeod 66, maron (?transcription) master, b. Dornock, Sutherland
Elizabeth MacLeod 53, b. Clyne
Elizabeth MacLeod 17, b. Golspie
Isabella MacLeod 14 b. Golspie
Address: Main Street, Golspie, Sutherland
And in 1861:
Neil MacLeod 76, mason (that's better!), b. Golspie
Elizabeth MacLeod 61, b. Clyne
Isabella MacLeod 24, b. Golspie
Elizabeth G Lanson 27, lodger, teacher
Address: Macleods, Golspie, Sutherland
Given that they lived past 1855 and the start of official registration, you will be able to find hopefully their death certs. to confirm their parents' names......first of all though, you have to confirm that these are Ann's parents 
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ronashill
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Monica
thanks for all of this. As you can tell, I'm a beginner at this! This should keep me busy for a while! What's IGI by the way?
Cheers
John
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MonicaLesl
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Hi John
To help you when starting out researching in Scotland, you should have a look at the two links here on Rootschat which explain what is available and also how to get the best out of Scotlands People, the official pay to view BMD and census site. Give a shout if you need any help.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,43916.0.html
IGI stands for International Genealogical Index and isto be found on the LDS site, family search, at www.familysearch.org . The site is free to use and particularly good in Scotland for the period 1855 (the begining of official registration in Scotland) until 1875. Entries before this date are from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) and mostly from the established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian). Be aware that members submit some entries which whilst useful need to be verified from other sources (they can be plain wrong!).
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ronashill
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Thanks Monica
Cheers
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ronashill
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Well I've found John Ferguson's death certificate. 12 April 1899 at Lybster. In 1871 the family were still in Lairg but had moved to Reay Cottage. John and Anne MacLeod married in 1841 on 11 June at Clyne. Now for John's father, Hugh.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi John
Well done on finding John's DC. Re his family, can't see a marriage for his parents on IGI. There is however one sibling showing for John, an actual extract from the OPRs:
DONALD FERGUSON Christening: 14 MAY 1804 Clyne, Sutherland, Scotland
Given the probable ages of the parents, they may well have died by the 1841 Census. I did try looking for Hugh in that Census a few days ago and no trace of him. One possibility for Margaret, I'll go back and try and find it!
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Clarets
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I am completely new to rootschat so please excuse me if I get the form wrong. I have just started researching my history but may have some light to throw on this group as I am also trying to research it. John Ferguson (1813-1899) was my great great grandfather and he was a gamekeeper for the Duke of Sutherland. He is rumored to have saved one of the sons of the Duke from drowning in a Loch and interestingly two of his sons, George and Francis have the middle name of Egerton which is the Dukes of Bridgewater family name - they are connected to the Dukes of Sutherland. John had a brother Donald and 11 children with his wife Ann MacLeod (1820-1901). Ann's parents were Neil MacLeod (1788-1875) and Elizabeth Ross (1798-1885)et Munro.
I am trying to get some info on John's parents Hugh Ferguson and Margaret Munro I have been told by Grant from the Sutherland Google group that they lived at Urachill (various spelling) in Strath Brora.
If you can help on any of the above I should be delighted to hear from you.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Clarets
Welcome to RootsChat
Hopefully you and John can compare notes. Just checking whether both of you have seen the entry on Scotlands People for last Will & Testament for John Ferguson which might provide some additional info:
John Ferguson, 10/05/1899, retired Gamekeeper, Lybster, Caithness, d. 12/04/1899 at Lybster, intestate - Wick Sheriff Court, Refs: SC14/40/16
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Clarets
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Hi Monica,
Yes I have seen it - thank you for your promt response . His insurance payment seemed fairly good although the value of his personal effects were a bit low. I am fascinated that a gamekeeper - son of a crofter (during the clearances) should have become so relatively well off. Two of his sons came south and had factory's of their own (rubberproofing and a foundry I believe) one in Manchester and one in Wolverhampton and its this apparent contradiction which is really intriguing me. Maybe there was something in the life saving activity!
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