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Alex and Jan
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We are trying to find the christening of Francis COPESTICK to see if his father is John
A friend looked for him between June 1811 to June 1917 but did not find him
He died Feb 1847 age 33 Congleton Moss
He married June 1835 St Mary Astbury
can anyone find his christening ?
Alex and Jan
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JDGen
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Hi Alex and Jan,
Could you tell us where your friend has already looked so we don't duplicate searches that have already been done?
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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Alex and Jan
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Hi Jean,
He looked in St Mary Astbury
Francis should have been christened there as in 1841 he was born in that parish ?
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JDGen
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Hi Alex and Jan,
The 1841 census doesn't give a place of birth, so all you can tell from this is that Francis was born in Cheshire (somewhere!) The 1841 index ref is HO107 119/14/17 Page 29. He was living in Astbury at the time of the census.
Do you have the details of his marriage and was he of the parish in 1835? Were there any Copestick witnesses that we can try to trace? Always a difficult one as the 1851 census is the first to give a place of birth and he was inconsiderate enough (  ) to die in 1847!
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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JDGen
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Your request drew my attention because of the name. I have some Copestick connections in Staffordshire through marriage with my Astbury line (surname not place). I have just checked my notes and I think that part of this line were Catholic, so it may be another avenue to pursue.
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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Alex and Jan
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Hello Jean,
The marriage in 1835 says he was "of this parish"
The witnesses were Morris and Johnson 
Thanks for your posings
Alex and Jan
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JDGen
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There is another Copestick marriage at Astbury:
Anne COPESTICK m Thomas PEDLEY, millman 17 Mar 1823 Astbury
Anne is possibly the sister of Francis.
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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Alex and Jan
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Thanks Jean,
We know Martha m 1838 and Thomas m 1845 had John Copestick father, farmer. but not finding Francis's birth we do not know and Anne's we are unsure also.
Thanks for your posting,
Alex and Jan
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peterbennett
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Hi All
Just had a look round and I get the feeling that Francis may have been born in Derbyshire.
I looked for a John Copestick in all Cheshire indexes and found 1860 a death in Congleton aged 80
1841 census HO107-119-14-F14-P20 Canal Street Congleton
John Copestick head 60 farmer not born in county
Elizabeth 60 not born in county
William 30 not born in county
Thomas 15 born in Cheshire
Sarah 14 born in Cheshire
Thier address is next to Congleton Moss.
The 1851 and 1861 census shows the above William being born in Cubley Derbyshire.
The father John in 1851 is shown living with a married daughter Hannah Ball in Congleton, and it states born in Congleton, but as his name is at the bottom of the list and the rest of the family were all born Congleton it may have been a slip up. Or it could another John Copestick.
It would seem that Cubley is on the Derbyshire/Staffordshire borders and the early parish records are kept at Litchfield Records Office. Some later ones 1813 + are in the IGI.
hope this is helpful
peterbennett
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JDGen
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Hi Alex and Jan,
I was coming to the same conclusion as Peter this morning (but had to dash off to work!). I found a likely Ann PEDLEY nee COPESTICK in 1851 HO107 2167/489 Page 8 living at Bayley St, Congleton:
Thomas PEDLEY, Head, Mar, 49, Silk Mill Man born Yorkshire Sheffield
Ann PEDLEY, Wife, Mar, 48 born Clifton Derbyshire
Harriet PEDLEY, U, 22, Silk Mill Cleaner born Cheshire Congleton
Joseph PEDLEY, U, 18, Silk Mill Piecer born Cheshire Congleton
Sarah PEDLEY, U, 16, Silk Engine Piecer born Cheshire Congleton
John PEDLEY, U, 9, Scholar born Cheshire Congleton
George PEDLEY, U, 5, Scholar born Cheshire Congleton
Ann could have been born in Clifton & Compton - see link here:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?DBY,SK167448,5,Clifton
This is near to the Staffordshire border. It's also near to Snelston and there is a marriage there that might fit (from IGI):
John COPESTAKE m Elizabeth FOSTER 30 Nov 1803 Snelston (M058951)
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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Alex and Jan
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Thanks so much to you both Jean and Peter 
Guess that is why Francis's baptism was not found in St Mary, Astbury !
We have seen the 1851 census with John with daughter Hannah Ball and realised we would not know from that where John was born.
We have not seen the censuses saying William was born in Derbyshire.
Anne born Derbyshire, seems to point to Frances being born there also .....if they are siblings........which we still have not been able to prove.
Thanks again,
Alex and Jan
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JDGen
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Hi Alex and Jan,
1851, HO107 2167/233 Page 8, Moss, Congleton:
William COPESTICK, Head, Mar, 42, Farm Labourer born Derbyshire Cobley
Ann COPESTICK, Wife, Mar, 40 born Devonshire Plymouth
Thomas COPESTICK, Son, 2 born Cheshire Congleton
Mary COPESTICK, Nurse Child, 8m born Cheshire Arclid
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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1861, RG9 2611/38 Page 27, John St, Congleton:
William COPESTICK, Head, Mar, 51, Ag Lab born Derbyshire Cubley
Ann COPESTICK, Wife, Mar, 50, Silk Worker born Cheshire Congleton
Thomas COPESTICK, Son, 12, Silk Worker born Cheshire Congleton
Joseph COPESTICK, Son, 9, Scholar born Cheshire Congleton
Elizabeth STANNIER?, Lodger, 94 born Cheshire Congleton
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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Alex and Jan
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Thanks so much for the census details Jean
You and Peter have helped us so much
Alex and Jan
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JDGen
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Just shout if you need anything else. William died before 1871, this is probably him from www.cheshirebmd.org.uk:
1862 William COPESTICK, 52, Congleton CON/20/92
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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