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Re: Woodhouse Varney
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 24 November 07 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

we've sorted out William he didn't belong with the 3 girls (I even had a note to myself to check it).  The Samuels and Marys - well I am still trying to wade through all that lovely information to sort something out there. 

Maybe I should point out my tree presented is a work in progress- I welcome anybody to question what I have there- my direct line I am sure of but even that gets cloudy as you go backwards.  Do I work differently to most people?  I use the genealogy software to record all possibles even unlinked persons and add links as the information is revealed.  It's definitely something I change and alter as I go along.  When I print a page off and put it in my folder I have a reasonable expectation that it won't change!  Does that clarify my tree for you?  I hope so.

So please keep up your wonderful work and don't question your data interpretation  because I have something different!  Woodhouse VARNEY was one of those unlinked people that I have in my database, I added him ages ago and always thought I might find a link to my branch- I haven't yet unless you count a descendant marriage..

I'll try to keep up to date with what you have here- access to a computer permitting (my laptop is away being fixed or otherwise)- it's fascinating what is cropping up.

Julie in NZ
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Re: Woodhouse Varney
« Reply #31 on: Friday 30 November 07 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

Redrock I do think your thoughts are probably correct.

I have a few bits of info that support your scenario for Samuel Varney. I crumbled and ordered the birth certificate for Thosey (Thirza) Varney, and her mother was Mary Lander according to the certificate - so Redrock you were was spot on.

I then was able to visit the records office, and found a Samuel born to a Woodhouse and Elizabeth Varney baptized on the 11th August 1799 - no other Samuels born to them that I could see, and next a Thirza born on April 30 1809 (bap: 14th May). I have a Martha burial for 1808 on my existing information, but I didn't see the entry whilst looking through the records, but I could easily have missed it. So I think the Samuel in question was the one above as Redrock concluded.

I also looked for Woodhouse junior's sister Elizabeth, and I ran out of time, beyond finding her in the IGI as being the daughter of a Samuel and Ann Varney 1825. She was shown as being registered Primitive Methodist, Belper.

I cannot trace Woodhouse Junior after the 1871 Census either, but I am sure I saw something ages ago indicating he was  overseas in 1881 (Rotterdam for some reason), but I cannot trace what evidence I had anywhere, so this has to be dismissed I think.

I could find no info on the birth of the original Woodhouse.  His marriage to Elizabeth Nightingale in Eckington has them as "both of this parish" but that only means he could have lived there for maybe a couple of years.  The Eckington baptism list seemed to be missing for 1761 - which is the indicted year of his birth on the tree I have, so I couldn't tell if he was possibly born there. No evidence of him in Belper/ Duffield either.........

That's all so far.

Ruthy
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Re: Woodhouse Varney
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 19 January 08 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year to all you Varney watchers. I have been having a look at the Hull Varneys and thought I should share a bit of information with you.

Previous posts have shown that in the 1881 census Henry Varney was living in Hull with his wife Mary Elizabeth (nee Colley), sons Arthur and Walter and daughters Louisa and Alice. After trying to find out what happened to each of the children, and failing to find any trace of Arthur Varney, I discovered that Arthur was not Arthur Varney at all. He was in fact Arthur Colley - Mary Elizabeth's (much) younger brother. She was the eldest of 12 children and Arthur was number 11.

So of the Varney "children" appearing in the 1881 census Arthur COLLEY married Emma in about 1890. Walter married Annie Elizabeth Goulding in 1894, Louisa married James Craig Walker in 1894, Alice married Walter Steele in 1906.

I've come across this sort of "adopted" name in the census many times, but it still throws me for a while. I hope this new information helps.
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