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ADI
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Hello,
I'm writing from Seattle Washington USA.
My Nana's maiden name was Winnifred Francis Brassington. She was indeed from Stoke on Trent. Her Fathers name was Edgar Brassington and her mothers maiden name was Eva Lily Shirley. They came to the U.S. when she was a child (around 1909). They were intercontinental and she did not become a U.S citizen until my mother was at school age. Her father was involved with the railroad.
The only thing I know about my Nana's family is that Edgar's family was at least partially French. I know nothing of Eva Lily's family in England.
I hope this helps someone put together missing pieces.
Best Regards,
ADI
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suzard
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Welcome to RootsChat
Do you know of any birth/marriage dates?
I have found an Edgar Brassington in Staffs on the 1901 census -he has a sister Winifred (very often children were named after parents siblings
I also have found an Eva Lily Shirley who is age 11 on 1901 census
Birth/marriage dates could help to see if these are possibilities
Suz
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suzard
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This looks a strong possibility for your nana's birth registration
FreeBMD
Birth
Winifred F Brassington
Sept quarter
1911
Wolstanton Staffordshire district
Mother's maiden name Shirley
Volume 6b
Page 152
Suz
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suzard
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Could this be Eva Lily Shirley?
1901
77 Scotia(?) Rd
Burslem Staffs
Thomas Leonard Shirley head M 37 Colliery Clerk Longbridge hayes Staffs
Mary Jane Shirley wife 32 Burslem Staffs
Harry gray Shirley son 13 Wolstanton Staffs
EVA LILY SHIRLEY daughter 11 Burslem
Gladys may Shirley daughter 8 Burslem
Martha Elsie Shirley daughter 6 Tunstall Staffs
Sarah Wilhelmina Shirley daughter 4 Burslem
Dorothy Ann Shirley under 2 months
RG13 2593 157 25
1891
48 Stanley St Burslem Staffs
Alexander gray Head 58 Potter's presser Burslem
Martha Gray wife 55 Tunstall
Charles Gray son U 22 potters presser Burslem
George Gray son U 18 Potters Presser Burslem
Lily Gray daughter U 25 Potters Paintress Burslem
EVA SHIRLEY granddaughter 1 Burslem
Harry gray Shirley grandson 3 Wolstanton
Mary Shirley daughter M 23 Burslem
Leonard Shirley son in law M 27 Potters Clerk Burslem
RG12 2162 105 35
Marriage FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1886
Wolstanton district
on same page
Mary Jane Gray
Thomas Leonard Shirley
Volume 6b page 182
if you think this is your family I can find more information
Suz
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ADI
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I just spoke with my aunt and she said that Nana(Winifred Francis Brassington) was born June 18th 1911. She's the most reliable source left in our family.
Thanks for your interest and response Suz.
ADI
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suzard
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The birth registration I found would be the correct one then, as it doesn't refer to the date of birth, but when the birth was registered. As she was born June 18th, she probably wouldn't be registered until beginning of July, which would put her registration in the Sept quarter. The actual certificate would show the exact date of birth.
Eva Lily Shirley age 11 on 1901 census looks a very strong possibility for her mother. She is the only Eva Lily Shirley to be found in Staffordshire of about the correct age to be your Nan's Mum.
If you sent for Eva Lily's marriage certificate, that would give you her father's name (which will most probably be Thomas leonard Shirley.
Would you like any further look ups on this line?
Suz
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ADI
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Thank you for your time and trouble!
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Hello,
I am new to Rootschat. I am researching the Brassington family from Betley, Staffordshire.
I see you have made contact with a researcher researching this family.Edgar Francis Brassington was one of my Grandfather's brothers.I last found Edgar on the 1920 census of King, Seattle.
Would like a chat with yourself or anyone else researching this Brassington family.
Thank you
Mere.
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Hello Mere
Welcome to Rootschat! 
I see that ADI hasn't been back on to the site his 2006 messages but maybe your message will tempt them (assuming they get the notification email!)
Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy the site!
Kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Thank you for your welcome. I really hope anyone reading my Brassington message will reply.
Mere
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ADI
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Hello,
I am the youngest great-grandchild of Edgar Francis Brassington. I'm so pleased to have received this message. I would love to chat further.
Best regards,
Adi
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Mere
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Hello,
I am very pleased to have made contact. Can you confirm the names of Edgars parents please.
Mere
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Mere
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Hello,
From re-reading your previous messages I do believe we are tracing the same family.
Do you know the names of all Edgar's children ?
Eva does not call herself Eva on her marriage cert: plus Edgar calls himself Francis,Eva is Lilly.
When they left for Canada he was Edgar she was Eva and their daughter was Kathleen, on the form it is spelled with a C.
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ADI
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Hello again,
My Nana's name was Winifred and her sister's name was Margarete. I do not know of a Kathleen. However, I know that Boom-Boom (Eva) had unfortune with an infant. Which is why she returned to England for the birth of her other children.
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Hi guys - looks like you have a link! 
Can I just ask that you respect Rootschat's rule of not posting anything too recent on the boards, please? Living people shouldn't be discussed here at all but you're welcome to exchange such details (or your email addies) by the secure Personal Message system.
Many thanks!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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