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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Could someone please try and find the parents of a Martha Lemon or Lemin, born Blisland Cornwall 1796 , married 1812 to Charles May , Died Blisland 1862, any help would be appreciated.
Regards Hotdog
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Hi Hotdog,
I think you may be substantially out with Martha's DOB here.She lists as aged 50 in 1841 census (ages of adults were rounded down in 5 year lots so aged 50 means her age was given as somewhere between 50-54) 1851 lists her as aged 66 and 1861 lists her as aged 77 so I think we are looking at a birth more like 1784-6. 
She also lists her birth as Morval not Blisland in both the 1851 and 1861 census. I have not located a birth but I see a few things that may be of interest.
Grace LEMIN 26 Feb 1786 Morval Parents Edward and Jane
now the only Edward and Jane I see
Edward LEMIN = Jane SWEET 6 Oct 1779 Cardinham.
There are birth of
Charles LEMIN 27 Feb 1780 Cardinham
There appears to be an awful lot of Lemin/Lemyn activity around the Cardinham, Warleggan area with this Edward looks like being baptised 24 Dec 1750 Warleggan to Soloman and Elizabeth Welch who wed Warleggan 17 Oct 1743. He had a sister Allymynta who appears the entry before Edward and Jane in the marriage register for Cardinham. Of course this Carndinham, Warleggan info may not be the same couple who at least had a daughter Grace in Morval. Seems to be a resonable distance between Cardinham and Morval although Blisland is not far from Cardinham. There is the burial of an Edward in Cardinham 5 Jan 1814 aged 63 which looks like it may be the same man.
There is an OPC for Morval could be worth an email to see if there is any more information there as to the birth of Martha. By what I see in the census entries I have no reason to believe she was born in Blisland.
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/PAR/L-M/Morval.htm
Good Luck...........Kris 
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hi kris and Hotdog,
Is it a typo, Kris, I have Martha born circ 1784.
Census says Morval, but have had no reply from OPC.
Marriage was definitely in Blisland.
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Oh is this one of yours too junket? Sorry fixed it...I was only 100 years out lol...I do it all the time - write the wrong century 
Yes I conclude Martha was probably born 1784 to 1786 Morval not Blisland. Hotdogs request suggested a birth of 1796 in Blisland. Yes the marriage was in Blisland but I see no reason to believe she was born there. Try the Morval OPC. Both Censuses she appears in she does give Morval as her POB. If not there I would be tempted to try Cardinham. The Lemins do appear to be centered around Cardinham/Warleggan area. No OPC for Cardinham so if Morval fails one of you may need to order in the Cardinham film to your local LDS library...probably Hotdog I can't imagine you being able to view microfilm with you vision problems.
Good Luck...........Kris
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HI KRIS, YES WE ARE COUSINS !! NEWLY DISCOVERED THANKS TO ROOTSCHAT, ( WONDERFUL TANJA AND YOU ).
I HAVE THE PARISH MARRIAGES FOR BLISLAND ON CD., THEY ARE ON THERE BUT HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPLY FROM MORVAL OPC. OR BLISLAND OPC.
I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD BE ANY GOOD WITH 'FILM'.
I DO HAVE ANOTHER LEMIN NAME, BORN WARLEGGAN, WILL FIND HIM AND POST, WE MAY BE LUCKY WITH HIM
THANKS KRIS.
JUNKET.
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HI KRIS,
ALL I HAVEFROM THE 1851 CENSUS, ON FREECEN IS ....................
JOHN LEMIN, AGED 40, AG LAB, BORN WARLEGGAN.
HE IS A LODGER IN THE HOME OF MARTHA LEMIN'S SON, WILLIAM MAY.
WILLIAM MAY, MY 3 X G GRANDFATHER.
I WILL CHECK THE OTHER RECORDS AS I THINK SOMEWHERE HE IS LISTED AS 'CHELSEA PENSIONER'.
JUNKET. ( SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, BUT I AM TIRED !!)
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Well that is interesting junket isn't it. It does appear to give credence to my theory that Martha's parents were possibly Edward and Jane and they came from the Cardinham/Warleggan area doesn't it  oohheeeeee
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YES KRIS AND MINE,
ALTHOUGH IT SAYS MORVAL, IT SEEMS TOO FAR AWAY, FOR THE FAMILY MARRIAGE PATTERNS, THEY SEEM TO MARRY WITHIN THE AREA OF THE MOOR. ST KEW, ST BREWARD AND BLISLAND, UNTIL THE CHILDREN OF WILLIAM MAY.
I CAN'T RULE OUT MORVAL, UNTIL I HEAR FROM MORVAL OPC. OR HOTDOG VIEWING THE FILM, FOR US.
1851 CENSUS ANC.....HE IS SEMIN...
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I wouldn't rule it out junket, people did move about for work purposes (Looks like it is only about 20 mile). If the family were Cardinham/Warleggan people that is not far from Blisland. Perhaps Edward found work in Morval for a few years. I hope someone can help with the baptisms from there. I like the fact that a Grace was born there around the right time and Martha seems detirmined that Morval is her POB....Kris
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DON'T WORRY KRIS I WON'T RULE IT OUT, UNTIL I HAVE PROOF.
IN 1851, MARTHA IS ALSO IN THE HOUSE.
IN 1861, JOHN IS LISTED AS LEMON, CHELSEA PENSIONER.
AM I ABLE TO ACCESS RECORDS, FOR CHELSEA PENSIONERS ?
HE HAS GONE, FROM AG LAB TO CHELSEA PENSIONER IN THE 10 YEARS.
MARTHA IS NEXT DOOR WITH HER OTHER SON.
( ALSO IN HOUSE WITH JOHN IS ROBERT COOPER, ONE OF MY PREVIOUS POSTINGS, STILL NOT FOUND HIM ) 
JUNKET.
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Hot Dog, has heard back from the Morval OPc, no record of Martha there. I have not heard back.
I have purchased the Cd of Morval baptisms, Grace is recorded, but not Martha.
Is it possible, that Grace and Martha, could be the same person ?
Any advice on what to do next please ?
thanks junket
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Hi Junket and Hotdog,
Well thats a pity isn't it. At least you now have it confirmed that the entry is not there. As I said earlier I would be very tempted to try Cardinham/Warleggan area from here. There does seem to be a lot of activity around this area. We do have an Edward and Jane marrying there at the right time. Has to be worth a try. There is an OPC for Warleggan.
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/PAR/T-Z/Warleggan.htm
Cousin Pauline is involved with Warleggan History Group so she may have some more ideas. No OPC for Cardinham which is where I would like to see checked, so Hotdog may need to view the film if all else fails. Good Luck.........Kris
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Thanks Kris,
I have e mailed the OPc.
I was given another possibilty, of parents by another Lemin researcher, I have found, who thinks our Lemins, are from his line, from Redruth ( I have a thread Redruth Marriage ), but he has a missing link............
Have seen Pauline's thread on the roadshow, unfortunately, I shall be recovering from an op and it is a bit too far to travel, this time.
junket.
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