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Keith Sherwood
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KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« on: Monday 01 January 07 15:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Everyone,
A first cousin of mine has realised that on her father's side she is connected to the KNIGHT family of Clones.  Apparently there is a Michael Elliott KNIGHT who was born at some time in the late 19thC in Clones, possibly.  His wife, Mary YOUNG was born in Gartinardress in nearby County CAVAN.
Does anybody know anything about these individuals, or indeed this particular branch of the KNIGHT family...
Sorry to be so vague!
Very best wishes,
keith
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 October 07 22:45 UTC (UK) »

I was born in Co Monaghan not far from Clones . My father use to talk of a Knight who  was a solicitor either in Clones or in Monaghan town. He would have lived from about the 1880's into the early 1900's. I'm sure there must be some records of his
residence in Monaghan town.
Ihope this might help
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 October 07 07:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Lynchris,
Thanks so much for responding to my New Year's Day message!  I haven't spoken to my cousin for the 9 intervening months or so, but I shall contact her and ask whether there might have been a solicitor in the family.
Do you know where I might be able to access a directory of the Clones area for this time...?
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 October 07 11:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Keith,
There are quite a few web sites under Irish Genealogy. I find www.Ulster Ancestry useful (Co. Monaghan is in Ulster).I used a
researcher in Monaghan town when I was researching my families
and found him very efficient. His Email address is;
                   theomcmahon@eircom.net
You can get his address and 'phone no. there. hemay be able to
help you more than I.
                    Don't hesitate to contact me if I can be of any further
help.
Lynchris


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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 October 07 12:43 UTC (UK) »

1910 Ulster Directory- under Clones there was M.E. Knight, solicitor, Diamond.
www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Clones.php
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 October 07 17:22 UTC (UK) »

Thanks very much for that Lynchris,
Just got in from a day at the races at Newmarket with my daughter, so still haven't made that phonecall to my cousin in Gloucester.
And Aghadowey, where or what exactly is "Diamond"?
Regards,
keith
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 October 07 17:38 UTC (UK) »

"Diamond" is the address. In Ireland a Diamond is the point where two (usually) or more roads intersect. Often the centre of a town or village but sometimes can be in the country.

P.s. also called 'The Diamond' sometimes.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 October 07 20:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Keith,
The Diamond is what I suppose you could call a square in the
middle of Monaghan town. It's where three streets meet so I think it' s more a triangle!!!! If you type in Googble or your search engine
monaghan town you can download a map of the town showing The Diamond clearly.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 October 07 21:48 UTC (UK) »

Aghadowey and Lynchris,
Thanks very much for putting me right on this!  Will have a good look at it all tomorrow now...
keith
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 19:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Lynchris and Aghadowey, (and anyone else who might be able to lend a hand!)
Have just spoken on the phone to my cousin, and this Michael Elliott KNIGHT, solicitor, is the very man whose family she wanted to discover more about.
Apparently, she received a Christmas card last year from an elderly member of this KNIGHT family, (maybe a son, possibly a grandson) and she thinks she remembers that when her mother and  father were married in 1947 at Drumbeg (which is in the Londonderry area?), this man's brother was best man.
So there was quite a close association between the YOUNG and the KNIGHT family.  Do you think the researcher whose name you gave me is the best way forward, or might there be a cheaper way of pursuing this KNIGHT family further back in time in the Monaghan area.
I imagine they had quite a high profile in the County if Michael Elliott KNIGHT was a solicitor in 1910.  I wonder if it was a family firm...?
Very best wishes,
Keith
N.B. Quite surprised myself just now to find on the IGI an entry for a birth on 13-01-1869, baptism on 14-03-1869 for a Michael Elliott KNIGHT in Clones, Monaghan, parents George KNIGHT and Nannie.
I hadn't in my innocence realised that Irish parish records existed to any great extent because of the conflagration in 1916 in Dublin.
Does this mean that I might perhaps be able to trace this family back further through Record Repositories in Ireland, then...?
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 19:56 UTC (UK) »

For starters, IGI on a 'Knight in Monaghan' search throws up some potential leads, including a Michael Elliot Knight born 13/1/1869 - it has a batch ref, so should be fairly accurate. Would fit for your solicitor chap in 1910 methinks.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland             
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably  County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 19:59 UTC (UK) »

You could try writing to the local library or area library that carries local records and ask if they can help with M.E. Knight.
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 19:59 UTC (UK) »

Scotmum,
Our posts just crossed in the ether!  Thanks so much for getting onto my KNIGHT case.  I'm beginning to get quite hopeful about things...
keith
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 20:00 UTC (UK) »

Looks like the parents George and Annie (nee Elliott) had a few other children too.

Seems to be a few variations on the mums name - Nannie, Ann, Annie.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland             
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably  County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Re: KNIGHT family of Clones - Michael Elliott KNIGHT b. late 19thC
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 October 07 20:04 UTC (UK) »

I was wondering about the "Nannie", was it supposed to be "Annie", then?  I'll print out the KNIGHT's in that batch number and sort through it now.
And, what is the general situation in Ireland about surviving parish records, by the by.  I suppose some areas are by chance better represented than others...
keith
Ah, posts stumbling over one another in my excitement - you've already answered the Annie variation question...
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