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Topic: Sarah HALL - Shropshire, 1861 (Read 623 times)
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andycadman
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I have been trying to locate a great grandmother of mine in the 1861 census in Shropshire.
Her name is Sarah Hall and she was born around 1851, although ages vary from census to census. Also from her marriage certificate her fathers name is given as William Hall a gardener. (Her married name was Udall)
I am unsure of the place where she was born. The various census give different place names:
1871: Millichapp, Shropshire
1881: Mittichoke, Shropshire,
1891: Eaton Under Haywood, Shropshire,
1901: Shropshire Militchip
I would really appreciate it if anyone could find her in the 1861 census and enlighten me a little more on the place where she was born.
Andy
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The main names that I am researching into at the moment are Cadman,(originating from Bulkington, Warwickshire), Smedley, (Leicestershire and Derbyshire), Paynes (Leicestershire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire) and Udall - you will also find several other names on my web page. I look forward to E-Mails from anyone who would like to share or talk about our family history.
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rjknott
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The hamlet of Upper Millichope is in Eaton-under-Haywood.
Richard
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rjknott
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There is a Sarah Hall, aged 1, daughter of Edward Hall, living in Upper Millichope in 1851:
HO107/1984
Edward Hall, 37, ag lab, b Eaton
Eliza Hall, 28, wife, b Delbury, Shrop
Elizabeth Hall, 5, dau, b Eaton
Job Hall, 3, son, b Eaton
Sarah Hall, 1, dau, b Eaton
Job Hall, brother, ?22, ag lab, b ?Rushbury, Shrop.
Richard
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Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
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Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
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rjknott
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There is a family with similar names in 1861, but the places have changed. It may be unrelated:
RG9/1861
Cressage, Shropshire
Edward Hall, 45, ag lab, b Millichess, Shrop
Eliza Hall, 37, wife, b Camlington, Shrop.
Sarah Hall, 11, dau, b Cressage
Eliza Hall, 9, dau,
William Hall, son, 7,
Emma Hall, 5, dau,
Mary Hall, 3, dau,
Edward Hall, 1, son, all children b Cressage
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
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Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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rjknott
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It is the same family because in 1871 Job (aged 23) is back with them and Edward gives his birthplace as Eaton-under-Haywood.
I can give details if you want
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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rjknott
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RG10/2761
Cressage
Edward Hall, 57, lab, b Eaton
Eliza Hall, 47, wife, b Delbury
Job Hall, 23, son, lab, b Eaton,
Edward Hall, 11, son, lab, b Cressage
Eliza Hall, 18, dau, b Eaton
Jane Hall, 5, dau, b Little Wenlock
1841 HO107/912/21
Upper Millichope
Edward Hall, 50+, ag lab
Sarah Hall, 50+
Edward Hall, 28
Job Hall, 18
Sarah Hall, 15
George Hall, 11 all b in county
Edward Hall m Eliza Davies Sep 1845 Church Stretton 18 39
Edward Hall m Sarah Mantle 13 Dec 1810 Eaton
There is the (minor) problem to sort out that the father on the marriage certificate was called William. It would be good to get some other evidence to link your Sarah to Edward's Sarah, although the age and birthplace fit.
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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rjknott
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Edward died in Jun 1897 (and Eliza in Dec 1892 I think); he might have left a will.
I had hoped that a Udall grandchild might have stayed with Edward and Eliza in the 1881 or 1891 census. There was a grandchild there in 1881 but it was a Hall one.
Good luck.
Richard
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Knott,Boutell,Warman,Winder,Webster,Uings,Evans,Drage
Pike,Pike,Watson,Pratt,Homewood,Stephenson,Brown,Pattison
Holmes,Tomlinson,Moorby,Cardus,Gill,Lambert,Binns,Emmott
Fenning,Pudney,Wilson,Walker,Hine,Treeby,Knox,Butler
Jack,Carswell,Gardiner,Alexander,Gibb,Watson,Naismith,Telfer
Gray,Inglis,Gibb,Watson,Taylor,Taylor,Gaff,Henderson
Gayford,Clarke,Palmer,Jessup,Smart,Hutson,Lloyd,Northover
Ridley,Lee,?,Mingings,Moore,Colthart,Lawson,Hind
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Lloydy
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Great Grandfather John Lewis
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Just a little thought from me!!!!.......
There is the (minor) problem to sort out that the father on the marriage certificate was called William.
Maybe Edward had two names - either William Edward or Edward William. A possibility I know, but his marriage certificate would confirm it for you
Edward Hall m Eliza Davies Sep 1845 Church Stretton 18 39
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The fantastic restoration and colour of my Avatar picture was done by Rootschatter PolldollAshton, Beaton/Betton, Bennett, Breese/Breeze, Crisp, Chandler, Challenor/Challinor, Crisp, Davies, Hudson, James, Jarman, Jenkins, Jones, Lewis, Mills, Owen, Owens, Richards, Simon & Trow - My Welsh ancestors from Montgomeryshire.
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Lloydy
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Great Grandfather John Lewis
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Ummmm......I think you can knock my idea on the head 
The original parish record at Witherley in Leicestershire will need to be checked if I can get there.
I think, to be absolutely sure, you need to check out the original parish record because, as you say, the father's names are indeed similar.
Sorry I can't help any further.
Jan
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The fantastic restoration and colour of my Avatar picture was done by Rootschatter PolldollAshton, Beaton/Betton, Bennett, Breese/Breeze, Crisp, Chandler, Challenor/Challinor, Crisp, Davies, Hudson, James, Jarman, Jenkins, Jones, Lewis, Mills, Owen, Owens, Richards, Simon & Trow - My Welsh ancestors from Montgomeryshire.
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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