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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 11 January 07 13:16 UTC (UK) »

well, I cant find EITHER of the Harrison daughters marrying in the 1856-1860 period in an obvious district.

But one of 'em had Mary jnr, as evidenced by her 'grandaughter' relationship to the Harrisons in 1861.

Saw a DANIEL FISH marrying 3Q1858 1a 455 in St George Hanover Sq ...


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I'm looking for the parents of Mary Ann Eliza (Elizabeth?) Fish

I think your best bet is to get the the Birth Cert for Mary AE Fish I found and at least you will have answered the first part of your query ?   Smiley
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newfy
Thanks for the interest. I have the Chelsea certificate. It lists the parents as Daniel Fish and Angelina (formerly Harrison). He is listed as a domestic servant on the birth certificate, but on Mary Ann's marriage certificate her father is listed as licensed victualler. I don't know how to be sure that this birth refers to my great grandmother - how do I make the link?
Any ideas.
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:20 UTC (UK) »

well, well - I thought that Daniel Fish was in the right place at the right time !

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It lists the parents as Daniel Fish and Angelina (formerly Harrison).


Get the marriage Cert I saw and take it from there ? The 'formerly HARRISON' is the key link I'd say ...

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Saw a DANIEL FISH marrying 3Q1858 1a 455 in St George Hanover Sq ...



Not quite sure why you didnt mention this before - no wonder we couldnt find a DAVID  Roll Eyes

Angelina .... hmmmm ... lets see what the Marriage Cert says ...

I'll look for a Daniel now in 1861 ....
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #18 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:24 UTC (UK) »

PS. Looks like you owe BEARKAT a vote of thanks for the 1871 find !

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How about this one? - transcribed as FESH

1871
RG10/1075 folio 42 page 77


living Sussex Square Stables, Brighton

Daniel FISH aged ?54  a coachman born Blandford, Dorset
wife Angelina ?34 born London 

children
Mary A 12 born Chelsea
Angelina 10 born Brighton
Emma 8 born Brighton
Helen 6 born Marylebone
Charles 3 born Brighton
Richard 2 born Brighton
Baby 2 wks born Brighton
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #19 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:34 UTC (UK) »



   Newfy's marriage is right St George Hanover Sq...lookup Harrison gives
   Angelina...but I read as vol 1a page 433? on original.

                  Tazzie
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #20 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:41 UTC (UK) »

They ought to be in Brighton in 1861 ..... but no sign ...

Trish - my Page refn was a handwritten one for Daniel  ... I'll double check.
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« Reply #21 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:44 UTC (UK) »

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8965&iid=ONS_M18583AH-0637&fn=&ln=Record+from+England+%26+Wales%2c+Marriage+Index%3a+1837-1983&st=d&ssrc=&pid=482047

looks like '455' to me - anybody else please ?

Trish - yours was for Ms Harrison - I think its a 5 there ctoo, his '5s' has a more curley loop at the bottom than the '3s' on the page ?

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8965&iid=ONS_M18583AH-0835&fn=&ln=Record+from+England+%26+Wales%2c+Marriage+Index%3a+1837-1983&st=d&ssrc=&pid=481293


Ordering the Cert online one could ask the question ...
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #22 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:51 UTC (UK) »




   Hi Newfy.....its Tazzie not Trish...

  Yep looked at Harrison  3rd qrt 1858...and Angelina is there St George Hanover Sq...blown it up 175%  ( reading parish registers from 1700 yesterday ouch eyes hurt) looks like 455 now but 5 are not completed with the top looking faint.

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:53 UTC (UK) »

sorry Tazzie ! Not sure how I read Trish ! Roll Eyes
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #24 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:56 UTC (UK) »

HANDMR - you still there ?

With Tazzie's confirmation, I'd go for that St George Hanover Sq Marriage - 3Q1858 - Vol 1a Page 455.

I suspect that the Mary AE Harrison we saw in 1851 has a middle name Angelina ?

All the clues are there .... Birth Cert of your lass saying Mum  formerly Harrison.

Being with Grandparents Harrison in 1861 ....

I wouldnt worry about the change of occupation for Daniel - look what he was in 1871 !
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #25 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:56 UTC (UK) »




  I am just amazed I still can after yesterday...some of the things I was trying to transcribe yesterday well Huh Huh you would not believe.  LOL
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #26 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:58 UTC (UK) »

tis hard work sometimes !  Cheesy

So do you think we can 'sign this one off' - apart from 1861 !
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #27 on: Friday 12 January 07 10:59 UTC (UK) »





   Have we got 1881...he's a coachman then as well.........


  Think so .... Grin
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #28 on: Friday 12 January 07 11:34 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks and applause to all of you for your hard work. I agree it's probably this side of coincidence and I'll continue following Angelina. I found her in the 41 census today and she had a sister Mary Ann so thats just another link.
You've been so helpful and I'll be back if I'm stuck again.
Thanks again
Smiley Smiley Smiley Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: the parents of Mary Ann Eliza Fish
« Reply #29 on: Friday 12 January 07 11:49 UTC (UK) »




   Hi......

    Oh you will be back ...this gets to be addictive Grin

    Have fun and enjoy Rootschat the best site out.

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