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MaryA
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 14 January 07 09:35 UTC (UK) »

I know we aren't following backwards but just in case the enumerator in 1901 got it right, I wondered whether Emily had been married previously and had actually started life as a Cottrill, but it wouldn't seem so, she seems to have been a Richards in 1891 if I have the right family, and no Cottrills in sight anyway.  I'm suspecting the reason why they have been enumerated in 1901 as "daughter" and grandchildren, is because they are still living in her parents house while they aren't present themselves.

It seems as if she may have had an interesting life herself ....

1891 - 74 Rockfield Road, Walton on the Hill, Liverpool
Robert Richards Head M 56 Insurance? Agent ?? Lancashire
Anora Wife M 50 Liverpool
Emily daur S 28 Professor of Music Liverpool
Waltor son M 25 Ship's Steward Liverpool
Robert W Son S 21 Insurance AGent New York USA
Alice daur 17 New York USA
RG12/2979; Folio 61; Page 22

Writing isn't so good so not positive about the father's occupation and I have no idea where in Lancashire his birthplace is.  But at least it confirms the 1901 details.

Mary
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 14 January 07 09:46 UTC (UK) »



   Hi Mary A

1881 Insurance agent...born Exeter Devon...

  rg/11 3665 /44   page 15...living inStanfield Rd EVERTON

               Tazzie
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« Reply #62 on: Sunday 14 January 07 10:26 UTC (UK) »


 1881 Insurance agent...born Exeter Devon...

Ha ha! somewhere Lancashire indeed!!! Well that's an enumerator for you  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #63 on: Sunday 14 January 07 10:43 UTC (UK) »

Just checked 1938 Kelly's. There is a Mrs  Elizabeth Stead in Gwendoline Street, Liverpool 8 but I doubt that's her (it's the wrong area). Occupant of "The Cot" in Grange Lane Gateacre is Edward Powell junr.

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« Reply #64 on: Sunday 14 January 07 10:49 UTC (UK) »

hello Mary

the address is   2 chelsea court
lulworth road
southport

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« Reply #65 on: Sunday 14 January 07 14:31 UTC (UK) »


The only birth I can find is for a Nora May Stead recorded in West Derby in 1893, but the 1901 census leads me to think it's not her & I can't find one in 1894 in Liverpool  Roll Eyes

Blimey this will teach me to read more carefully - Wendi, do I take it you ain't a scouser then?

Nora(h) was 7 in 1901 so 1893 would be more or less perfect, I suppose depending on the particular dae of her birthday and West Derby IS the Registration District which would cover Everton/Anfield and a large part of Liverpool, so that's perfect.

Mary
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« Reply #66 on: Sunday 14 January 07 14:38 UTC (UK) »

Wendi, do I take it you ain't a scouser then?

Your right  Cheesy but I was more going by the fact that the census said "Liverpool"........if we are going further a field there is also a Norah Stead 1884 registered in Ormskirk - but with no middle name.  They are my two best bets, but I can't find a marriage anyway  Undecided

They must have some next of kin somewhere  Roll Eyes

Wendi  Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: Sunday 14 January 07 14:50 UTC (UK) »

Noooooooo, West Derby is PERFECT!!!  That is the correct one.

Now let's see how many votes I get for my alternative choice of activities for this afternoon ......

I can either

1. Take a trip to Anfield and photograph 67 Watford Road and even continue and get a picture of Grange Lane, Gateacre, although I have not idea whether "The Cot" still exists.

OR

2. I can do some laundry ...............

Guess I'm going to see you all later!

Bye for now
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« Reply #68 on: Sunday 14 January 07 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Well Monty and me went on an adventure, Monty? my Chrissie pressie from mum, Monty

The first one is 67 Watford Road.  The church is St. Stephens, Gateacre, I wonder whether Robert and Elizabeth might have attended there and would his funeral have been from there?

After that although I found Grange Cottages and Grange Mews, I couldn't find one with the name The Cot.  So these being of about the right age, here is a picture to give you an idea that there is a small part of Gateacre and Belle Vale which is still villagey.  They are very close to Paradise Row and Soarer Cottages, there are pictures of them on this site. Gateacre and you will also find out about the Wilson Memorial Fountain which stands on Gateacre Village Green, which is my last photograph.  So much for a "Green", my photograph was taken while stopped at the traffic lights!!!

I wondered whether it might have been a house which came with a job, but I think the details in the Probate Index would suggest that this was a step up for them from Everton.

Mary


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« Reply #69 on: Sunday 14 January 07 16:48 UTC (UK) »

And the other two, top one is Grange Cottages with Grange Mews behind.


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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 14 January 07 17:01 UTC (UK) »

Mary
was just about to get a foty myself was waiting for battery to recharge  it would have helped if I had  plugged it in , when I decided to  have a look  at the  site  and  you have just saved me a walk up Priory Road    good  foty 
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« Reply #71 on: Sunday 14 January 07 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Oh Mary and Girls and boys ( RT) !! ........................... look at what you've been doing while I was sleeping !!

My keyboard is flooded ....... I grew up in Belle Vale and used to go to St Stephens as a kid !!  Smiley Smiley Smiley Photographs are wonderful Mary .... thank you so much and thank you to Monty too .... he looks wonderful !! ( except he doesn't have long hair !!  Wink Wink Wink

Anfield was a stomping ground for saggin' school ..... all my friends lived there !!

Wow ! so now I have to look properly again at what's been written ! .... thank you all so much for doing this .... you guys are great !! and Thudders has been great too in the background .... my friend will be very pleased I know !!

Annie  Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #72 on: Monday 15 January 07 00:03 UTC (UK) »

This message is intended for all the people who, with Annie, take part in research concerning Robert William STEAD.

Thank you, Thank you, From the bottom of my heart,Thank you ; I knew that one day my obstinacy would be rewarded.

my friendly and sincere thoughts go toward each one among you.

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« Reply #73 on: Monday 15 January 07 00:14 UTC (UK) »

It's lovely to hear from you Michel, welcome to Rootschat, we're a friendly bunch.

I've no idea whether we might find a descendant but I know one of your wishes was to see where he had lived and now you have photographs, so that's nice.

Annie, I think you should be posting on the Liverpool Echo messageboard, I know people have had some luck there.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/expats/oldpals/

I don't think links to websites work though, so use an email address carefully!!

Mary
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« Reply #74 on: Monday 15 January 07 00:17 UTC (UK) »

Good to see you Michel ! and welcome to RootsChat !!  Smiley

What do you think ? are we getting somewhere ?

I'm hoping that we will find a relative who will be able to cherish the name tag - as you have done all these years !!

We are very happy to help if we can !!

Annie  Smiley Smiley

PS OK Mary !!  Wink Wink
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