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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #645 on: Sunday 14 October 07 10:40 UTC (UK) »

That is a problem, Shaun, her Crease cousins could be anywhere other then on the Wirral.

Perhaps it would be a good thing if anybody has Ancestry they could find the person in the Stead family who married a Crease but then they may be on her mother's side.

I do think it is necessary to  investigate the family of Robert now that  the information about his wife Elizabeth
has been found.

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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #646 on: Sunday 14 October 07 10:48 UTC (UK) »

It's already known, Norah.

Norah's aunt Alice Richards married Miller Crease. They had 3 children that we know of, Alice 1901, Emily 1902 and Robert Miller Crease 1907 (d. 1984).
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #647 on: Sunday 14 October 07 12:16 UTC (UK) »

Norah's aunt Alice Richards married Miller Crease. They had 3 children that we know of, Alice 1901, Emily 1902 and Robert Miller Crease 1907 (d. 1984).

Shaun, without reading all this thread , were the Crease family in the Liverpool district?

Norah
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #648 on: Sunday 14 October 07 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Norah, I'm afraid there's no alternative at the moment to reading through the whole thread. I just had to go back to 22 January 07 to remind myself of the research that was done on the Crease family.

See Reply number 355, where MaryA reports on the conversation she had with Robert Crease's widow.
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #649 on: Sunday 14 October 07 12:42 UTC (UK) »

See Reply number 355, where MaryA reports on the conversation she had with Robert Crease's widow.

Thank you Shaun, I was on page 3 when you mailed.  It has saved a lot of time.  Will read what is said.

Norah 



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LLOYD  Orleton, Herefordshire
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #650 on: Sunday 14 October 07 13:06 UTC (UK) »

Shaun

After eading the preceeding pages to post 355 I think I agree that as much as possible has been done to trace relaives of Robert Wm. Stead.  I do not want to sound defeatist but if Robert Crease's widow could not help it makes one wonder who could.

Norah
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #651 on: Sunday 14 October 07 13:18 UTC (UK) »


Well for something completely different ..... I found out that before WW1 our Robert worked at Parrs Bank Ltd Market branch Liverpool and was bonded .........

Annie - where did that information come from ? Did you find out anything else about Robert's pre-war days ... any reference to his school for instance? ( If we can't find any family, his school might like to have the wrist tag)
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #652 on: Sunday 14 October 07 14:18 UTC (UK) »

I've had no reply yet from Thornton but I think we are going to have to turn our attention to chuchyard burials rather than municipal cemeteries as we are running out of options.

Dawn, please refresh me on what you are waiting for from Thornton.  Are we duplicating things here?

I posted details about Elizabeth's cremation and scattering of ashes.
Thornton wasn't open at the date Robert died but it seems unlikely that he would be buried in the Thornton area unless there was a family grave somewhere.
He died in Garston so if he isn't buried in the southern end of Liverpool then I think a private grave might be likely, possibly with his parents? but where?
To clarify what I am waiting on from Thornton is contact from the person who arranged Elizabeth's cremation.  This depends on whether they are still at the same address after all these years and secondly whether they are interested enough to make contact anyway.
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #653 on: Sunday 14 October 07 14:47 UTC (UK) »

No Wocky we aren't duplicating.

Please see my post 537 on page 36.

I published a list of minicipal cemeteries/crematoria. I made contact with Liverpool council and Chris there very kindly told me free of charge where he wasn't and suggested Central library for more info.

Central library told me, also free of charge, where he wasn't.

Sefton council look after Bootle cemetery but the records are held at Thornton, but they make a charge for look-ups so I've sent an email to Thornton to see if Robert is at Bootle, acting innocent of the look-up charge.

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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #654 on: Sunday 14 October 07 15:59 UTC (UK) »

Good afternoon all.

Can I just check with those who have been following this very closely. please?  Smiley Smiley

We know that Robert's father was a William Stead who m Emily Richards.  She married a Mr Crease, She is being followed up I believe.   We are therefore looking for a cousin of Robert to whom the wrist tag could be passed on.

Are there any other sisters or brothers of Emily who ought to be worked on?.

If we are following up on Robert's aunts and uncles on his mother's side, ought we not to do the same on his father's side?   I've been doing some digging but wanted to know how much had already been done?

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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #655 on: Sunday 14 October 07 17:29 UTC (UK) »

Reiver - I'm experimenting with ways to make the key facts available and have just sent you an email with a link - please let me know if the link works and if you can access the site.
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #656 on: Sunday 14 October 07 19:34 UTC (UK) »

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Dear Edna
Thank you for your email regarding Robert William Stead. I am still looking through the records that we hold, at the moment I have drawn a blank.
I will try and included this search in our next Newsletter which will be published in December in the hope that our members may have some info.
I have to admit that I have not had time to read all 44 pages of the thread! if you are able to summarise the search for me it would be a great help.
Regards Bob Steed (Stead-Steed ONS)
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This is the reply from Bob Stead (mentioned by me on page forty) at the one name study of Stead-Steed shall I send a summary of what the thread is about or would anyone else like to reply to Bob.

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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #657 on: Sunday 14 October 07 19:38 UTC (UK) »

sorry about the multiple posts but each time I tried to post I got an error message up so did not know it had posted

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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #658 on: Sunday 14 October 07 19:39 UTC (UK) »

I had earache last week but I'm not deaf now !!!!lol  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #659 on: Sunday 14 October 07 19:55 UTC (UK) »



Hi Everybody !

OK ! lets all just stop for a minute and take a breath !!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

The people who have been with this thread from the beginning ... pretty much know ( in general  Roll Eyes ) where to look for information

The new people to the thread - have too much to read - therefore are asking questions about things that have already been addressed and we're using up valuable space by going over the same things !

The "powers that be " ( whoever they are  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes ) will be complaining in the very near future !

So ... if you wouldn't mind just holding on .... till we can get this summary thing up to date .... so then we're all on the same page ..... I'd really appreciate it !

I don't want you guys going off " the boil " ... because this is a pretty REMARKABLE thread but if you can hang onto your hat just a little bit longer .... we'll get this thing up and running again !!

Thanks you guys !

Annie  Smiley

PS Shaun ..... his service papers !!  Smiley

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Well for something completely different ..... I found out that before WW1 our Robert worked at Parrs Bank Ltd Market branch Liverpool and was bonded ......... it that too far back to pursue ??

In 1913, the bank formed a subsidiary, London County and Westminster Bank (Paris), which opened branches during and after World War I in Bordeaux, Lyons, Marseilles, Nantes, Brussels, and Antwerp. The bank itself also established offices in Barcelona and Madrid during the same time. In 1917, bank officials decided to acquire the Ulster Bank (which continued to operate separately), with 170 branches throughout Ireland, and in 1918 bought Parr's Bank, with over 320 offices throughout England. These purchases made London, County, Westminster & Parrs (which became simply Westminster Bank Ltd. in 1923)the fifth-largest bank in England.

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