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Topic: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !! (Read 19299 times)
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liverpool annie
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Most people know how I go gaga over WW1 soldiers .......... but this soldier is an enigma ........
It all started when I got this email from France ....
25 years ago, when I was General Secretary of the town hall of LA COUTURE, a village between ARMENTIERES and BETHUNE, just on the western front, I found, among old coins and a button of british trench coat, a piece of metal engraved in english.
Since that day, I search in the british cemeteries of my sector the grave of the man (there are many of them near my home)
In fact, with help of members of the forum and of a new friend from minnesota one day I see I mistaked, the man survived the conflict an go back alive at home Watford / Walford Road, Anfield Liverpool
The memory of this men, that I do not know haunt my spirit, my best wish is to restore the wrist tag to his descent, if it exist, that is very very important for me.
Of course, no money in this history, just to be in peace with my soul, this medal is not mine, it must go back in his real place.
Do you think someone is able to take, in a first time few photos of the house of Stead where he goes back after been discharged in 1918 ?
The man in question is ...........
2nd Lt Robert William Stead MGC ... I have a photo of what looks like a dog tag of some sort or a wrist tag with his name and regiment and also he was C of E ..........
I have copies of his service record ...... but would love to be able to give my French friend peace of mind and see if we can get this tag back to it's rightful owners !!
I'd appreciate all the help we can get !! I have asked on the Lancashire board - if the street is still in exsistence .... all thoughts are welcome !!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,206951.from1168565017/topicseen.html#msg1058616
Thanking you in advance
Annie 
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MaryA
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St Chads, Kirkby
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Hi Annie,
I agree with Retiringtype in the other message that the road name is probably Watford Road http://tinyurl.com/ud84t , behind Arkles Lane which means it's just around the corner from the Anfield Ground.
If I'm passing any time during daylight I'll take a photograph, do we have any idea of the house number?
Although this aerial photograph is a few years old, it gives you an idea of where the street is in relation to the football ground and Stanley Park http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=17672.msg250208 the road near the bottom of the picture, running off the right side of it will be Arkles Lane and parallel to it, but just off the picture will be Watford Road.
The place to advertise for any family members still living will be the Old Pals Section of the Liverpool Echo http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/expats/ which is free to post on there and many people have been lucky in making contacts.
Hope this helps a bit Annie.
Mary
Amended because I typed the wrong name of the road. Sorry guys, not feeling 100% today
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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KathMc
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Annie,
This story gives me goosebumps. Very interested to see how this turns out. Keep us posted.
Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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liverpool annie
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Thank you Mary !
A photo would be great !! ( or whoever goes that way first !! )
I'm really hoping Rootschatter's will give us some clues Kath !! I'd love to be able to find his relatives !!
Annie
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Doedoe
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hello
Watford Road is still there , it backs onto Arkles Lane and runs between Anfield Road and Priory Road . I live off Priory Road
Doreen
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MaryA
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Now Annie, you will have to keep posting to one thread instead of two, now Doreen doesn't know that you are interested in memories such as street parties and the Coronation and such, she may well know people who were around in the street at that time.
Hi Doreen, how are you?
Mary
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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liverpool annie
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OK Miss !! 
I'll say thank you on the other one !!!
Hi Doreen I'd love to hear anything you know about Watford Road ? do you know anything about the families there ?
Annie
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Arranroots
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Hi Annie
Presumably you have seen this thread on the GWF. It seems Michel has recruited another sleuth before you!
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t44137.html
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(Hope you feel better soon Mary)
(Naughty Annie for double-posting!!)
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Doedoe
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hello folks
will see what I can find out and ask if any old fotys are knocking around
Doreen
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liverpool annie
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My mission is to find the family if possible .... that's why I said I didn't need the Military stuff !!
My hand is ready for the ruler AR ..... but I thought I'd find out if the street existed first !! can it be added here do you think ?? what do you call it " merge topics " 
Thank you Doreen .... I appreciate the help !! ... I would love to find out if the Stead's were an old family in the area
Annie
PS But here's the medal card
Stead, Robert William
Liverpool Regiment
1466
Private
Machine Gun Corps
22397
Lance Corporal
Machine Gun Corps
Second Lieutenant
Date
1914-1920
Private Robert William Stead 1466 1/6 KLR trans 22397 MGC
Admitted 15 Field Ambulance 6/5/15 (contusion). Discharged to duty 15/5/15. Appointed paid L/Cpl 28/8/15. Attd 165 Brigade MGC Company 20/2/16. Promoted A/Cpl while attd 29/3/16. Discharged to TF 18/5/16 and re-enlisted in MGC 19/5/16 with new number 22397. (1/6 KLR Casualty Ledger)
Served :
Liverpool Regiment 1466 Private
Machine Gun Corps 22397 Lance Corporal
Machine Gun Corps Second Lieutenant 28/01/1918
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Doedoe
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hello Annie
there are quite a lot of oldies in our area so someone just may know of the family the houses are quite big and would have had big famies in at the time,
Doreen
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liverpool annie
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Hi Doreen !
I had a few friends that lived over that way when I was at school ... I remember the big houses !!
I've checked Anfield cemetery and Toxteth and West Derby ...... I wish Liverpool records office was on line !! where else would be a good place to look ?
Annie
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bearkat
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Checking through Kelly's Directories would show when the family stopped living at that address.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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liverpool annie
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His father was William Harley Stead ...... do you have access to Kelly's Bearkat please ??
'cos I couldn't find them in 1901 !!
Annie
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Arranroots
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There are various directories here, Annie - unless you have already looked?
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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