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227 porchester road nottingham
« on: Saturday 13 January 07 22:42 GMT (UK) »

hi can anyone help me please im looking for old pictures of this address from aound 1910 onwards as it should be a butchers shop in them times my great grandfather used to manage it his name was walter henry jaques thankyou
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Re: 227 porchester road nottingham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 January 07 23:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I have checked 'picture the past' which has old photos of Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire etc. and there is nothing on there. You could try

Nottingham Central Library
Angel Row,
Nottingham
NG1 6HP

Tel: Nottingham (0115) 915 2828
Fax: Nottingham (0115) 915 2840
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E-mail: enquiryline@nottinghamcity.gov.uk

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I don't know if Nottm archives can help:

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I drive along Porchester Road sometimes (I worked there for at least ten years) but I have a feeling the buildings that side of the road have been demolished. In fact I started there in 1977 and cannot remember shops on the 'odd' side of the road. I can only remember walking down from the Mental health hospital, where I used to work, (Ex asylum), past the industrial workshops and farm belonging to the hospital before reaching the 'sister' hospital. The farm and land were sold off and a housing estate built.

There is a pub, post office and shops on the 'even' side of the road.

Are you certain of 227 being the number?

Jane
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Re: 227 porchester road nottingham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 18:08 GMT (UK) »

hi jane, do you know if there were any butchers shops around the area near porchester road  thanks rob
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Re: 227 porchester road nottingham
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 January 07 22:14 GMT (UK) »

I searched Wright's 1913-14 Directory of Nottingham and drew a blank. However, searching Wright's 1910-11 was more fruitful. The attached shows Walter Henry Jaques as a manager at Morley Villas, Porchester Road (not sure whether this was his residence or workplace or both).

In regard of location, Morley Villas were listed between Kenrick Road and Daisy Road. These are both on the 'even' numbered side of Porchester.

Probably of interest to you is that a George Frederick Jaques, Railway Canvasser (whatever that is) was also listed at Morley Villas.

Porchester Road between Kenrick Road and Daisy Road is now a pub (the Punchbowl) and its grounds.  It looks like there were originally two detached properties that have been joined together to make the pub as it is today. It's covered in rendering to make it appear homogenous but the original parts look early 1900s (though I'm just guessing from the features). This implies that one half of the pub could have been Morley Villas. There are a couple of pictures of the Punchbowl at www.picturethepast.org.uk.

As for the 'odd' side of Porchester, there are three houses a little further up, numbered 233, 235 and 237.  They are not part of the recent developments but equally don't look as old as the pub.  It does help with trying to place 227.  That property (and 229 and 231) would presumably have been below these three but nothing is shown in the directory. Anyway, even if they did exist, they are alas not there now.

Here's a link to an interesting site that shows property boundaries in Nottingham today, with numbering.

http://webgis.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/website/nomad

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Re: 227 porchester road nottingham
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 February 07 01:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I am pleased to see Sherwood has backed up what I was thinking. Below the Punchbowl pub is Daisy Road, Florence Road and then Morley Road. I would expect Morley Villas to be close to Morley Road.

The Punchbowl is 214 Porchester Road. There was a big house on the corner of Morley Road. I think an elderly man lived there who had a really old fashioned car, a bit like a Bonnie and Clyde type. This would have been 192. Over the past year or so it has been demolished and new houses built. Could this have been Morley Villas. Above this there are shops.

Above the Punchbowl is Kenrick Road with 222 on the upper corner. Across the road where you would expect 227 is the new estate. I still remember this as Mapperley Hospital farm but to check it out I could see if old maps exist either at the archives or at Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust who are todays "equivalent" of Mapperley Hospital. I still have some management responsibitlities within the old hospital grounds.

I had an eye operation last Friday so I am off work and cannot drive for 2 weeks. Once I have the all clear I will try and find out more for you at the archives and by driving up Porchester Road.

In the meantime if you can recheck any information you have and post it to make any enquiries easier for me.

Jane
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Re: 227 porchester road nottingham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 February 07 10:35 GMT (UK) »

Jane,

The 1910-11 directory lists Morley Villas between Kenrick and Daisy, i.e. where the Punchbowl is today. The directory didn't list anything after Daisy Rd on the Porchester Rd entry.

Bear in mind that there is also a Morley Avenue the other side of Mapperley Top so I'm wondering whether there was an eminent Mr Morley after whom these places were named (i.e. Morley Villas wouldn't have necessarily been on Morley Road).

Sherwood.
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