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ShaunJ
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Can anyone help with this place name - COMPLETED
« on: Monday 15 January 07 11:38 UTC (UK) »

I think this is probably somewhere in the Appleby/ Kirkby Stephen area.

I don't think it's Little Musgrave. It looks like Little Mayberry

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Angell - Norfolk/Cambridgeshire c.1780
Bale - Rotherhithe 1820's
Bradbury - Derby/Nottingham
Folder - Westmorland
Gale - Lymington/Rotherhithe 1780-1820's
Jones - Liverpool - c.1805 - Whitesmith
Grey - Llangwillog - c.1820
McCrickard c.1825 Ireland
Devine c. 1835 Dublin
Crane - Liverpool c.1805
Thornton - Liverpool c.1805
Oliver - Lambeth 1800's
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Nutty1966
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Annie Isabelle Bollands nee Rice

Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 January 07 12:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi I had a quick look at this map, hope it may help you? Undecided

Jane

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/countymap.htm


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LEICESTERSHIRE & MIDDLESBROUGH - BOLLANDS, GORE,
LINCOLNSHIRE - BAKEWELL, MARRIOTT
MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
BEDALE & MIDDLESBROUGH - STEPHENSON
BROUGHTON - HARRISON
MIDDLESBROUGH - WARD,FOSTER
PINCHINTHORPE - POSTGATE
BILSDALE- BOYES

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ShaunJ
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 January 07 18:03 UTC (UK) »

Yes that's a nice old map.

The person in question was baptised at Crosby Garrett so the birthplace could well have been Little Musgrave. It doesn't look much like Musgrave but this census sheet is from Lambeth in 1851 and the enumerator is unlikely to be familiar with Westmorland village names.


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briant
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 January 07 19:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi, It looks like Little Musgrave to me,Is the writing any clearer on the 1861 census?

BrianT


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ShaunJ
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 January 07 20:17 UTC (UK) »

Brian, there's no sign of him (Christopher Folder b. 1785) on the 1861 census - I think he must have died before then.


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sillgen
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 20:41 UTC (UK) »

I don't think it says Little. If you look at the L in other words it is not at all similar. Have you asked the experts at Kendal record office what they think? They will know all the local hamlets. I have been in that area frequently and can't think of a suitable one! If his sister was born in Appleby it may be a tiny place nearby. Crosby Garret is very small - it could even be a house name up on the fell. Did he own property? Where did his money come from? A will might help here.
You can search all the deaths on ancestry.co.uk. Choose the full version.
Andrea


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Lyn S
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 January 07 08:26 UTC (UK) »

I agree with Andrea - it doesn't look like 'Little'.

I can see what looks like 'After' (unlikely, I know) but I may be confused by the top of the 'M' underneath.

Very odd......

I'd go for 'Mayberry' rather than 'Musgrave', for what it's worth!

Good luck with your research.

Lyn S


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ShaunJ
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Re: Can anyone help with this place name
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 May 09 08:59 UTC (UK) »

From Google Books "The parish registers of Crosby Garrett, 1559-1812‎"

(1770) Bridgett d. of William & Isabel Folder of Little Musgrave.

(1775) Elizabeth d. of William Folder of Little Musgrave, ...

1786. ?? Christopher s. of William Folder of Little Musgrave & Elizabeth hw : aged 38 wks. ...


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