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waterfall
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 February 07 16:34 GMT (UK) » |
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Not so much travellors as "Boat People" "Canal " "River" and "Water",
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 March 07 18:41 GMT (UK) » |
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So far I am not 100% sure I have bargees in my family. I have only found a distant one on a census whose occupation was given as river work.
My mother told me there were bargees in the family........should have asked more at the time.....too late now. However with her paternal line I have hit the proverbial brick wall and wonder if these are the ones. Cannot be found on some of the census but could be for another reason other than the barge kept moving to make life difficult. The other thing that also makes me wonder is that my Gt/Grandfather cannot make up his mind where he was born......not uncommon of course. But looking at the various places he moots it could be that he was on the Fossdyke/ Witham waterway. My assumption of course.
If you have any luck let me know and I will let you know if I come up with anything although we are looking at different waterways. Another site I have just looked at but not in depth
http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/external/rchs/natarchnet.htm
Susan
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 March 07 18:55 GMT (UK) » |
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what names you looking for ? Like the travellers, prior to the 1861 census you are lucky to find anything
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 March 07 18:57 GMT (UK) » |
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Mudge
the University of Warwick has trade union records supposedly for the Amalgamated Society of Watermen, Lighterman and Bargeman 1893-1921.....too late for me but you mentioned the 1880's so maybe?
www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/archive/
Susan
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:07 GMT (UK) » |
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what names you looking for ? Like the travellers, prior to the 1861 census you are lucky to find anything
Looking for Wm Abbey bn abt 1849/1852. Can be found in 1881, 1891, and 1901. Married in 1871 to Sarah Dixon at West Hartlepool. I have asked on RootsChat for help but would seem he does not want to be found. Could be illegitimate of course as cannot find his supposed father either.!!
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:30 GMT (UK) » |
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hmmm as I said earlier - prior to the 1861 census, you are lucky if you get a result at all, and then it goes up in degrees to the 1881/1891 census, where you are liable to find your travelling folks, whoever they may be. On the one hand, Ive been suprised to find as many as I have on the earlier censuses, and on the other, its SO frustrating and annoying that you cant find the ones you really need!.
My 3xgreat grandmother Gray appears on the 1871 CR at Heckington in a vardo, but her hubby died in 1869, and there is no trace of them anywhere earlier than 1871.
Ill keep me eyes peeled for you ... good luck
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:52 GMT (UK) » |
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done a search for w, wm, william Abb*y and Ath*y to see what that turned up - found him as you have 81/91/01
Zilch else.
But then I looked for William Aby..... on one of the earlier census he gives his place of birth as Kilham, and another Lincoln.....
what about this as a possible??
Kirton In Lindsey, Lincolnshire, 1861
Class: RG9; Piece: 2397; Folio: 31; Page: 35;
John Aby 49 Tailor born Kirton In Lindsey
Susan Aby 42 Upwell, Nfk
Sarah Aby 11 scholar Kirton In Lindsey
William Aby age 9 scholar Kirton In Lindsey.
Benjamin Aby age 6 scholar born Kirton In Lindsey
George Aby age 4 scholar Kirton In Lindsey
Thomas Aby age 4 Grandson London
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:55 GMT (UK) » |
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mmm maybe scrub that, just found this guy as William Abey married to Rosamund in later census.
Nope, yr right, cant find him! oh well I had a go... 
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Re: Bargees
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 March 07 09:02 GMT (UK) » |
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Well thanks for all your efforts...........appreciated even if a nil result. As you say so frustrating that the ones you really want refuse to show themselves. All I have for Wm is his marriage and death......no birth or what might be a marriage and death for his father. I have this feeling they probably jumped the broomstick.!!! Wife Sarah came from Kilham....traced her back so thats why I went for a birth of Wm in Lincs.
From the 1871 have you got your 3xGt/Grandmothers birthplace their names as I can also keep an eye open.
At the moment am not on Ancestry.....subscription ran out in Dec so unsure as and when I will join again.
Susan
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 March 07 15:35 GMT (UK) » |
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Oh believe me Ive checked - theres no Christopher Gray/Smith Chris Gray/smith, C Gray/smith etc or any other Gray/Smith from the right place (he was born and bapt at Thurlby In Bilsby in 1815, and died in an accident when a runaway horse and gig hit him at Wrawby by Brigg in 1869 (got Burial details). He married Maria Smith at Rauceby in 1835, and Ive looked under every possible connotation I can find. Maria (Smith) Gray died at Heckington in 1875, and is buried there (again, I have the details) and she appears on the 1871 cr but not any earlier ones. Such is life.
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