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bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 24 February 07 00:34 GMT (UK) »

  Hi hmg
  There are a few George Scotts in the book that died in 1917
Have you any more info on him? You say he originated from Hawick.I take it
he had moved from the town before he enlisted.
There is one from Canada . Do you know his fathers name or the exact date
he died?
Also found a Driver George Scott from Alloa.
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 24 February 07 09:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi, Bougie, Thanks for the very prompt reply.  We know he had been living in Alloa, (and prior to that in Inverleithen) and we think, working for the Co-op.  He married my grandmother, Helen Munro, at the end of 1915.  However, the 'Driver' doesn't ring any bells, and, unfortunately, we don't have his exact date of death.  hmg
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 February 07 13:07 GMT (UK) »

  Hi hmg
  This must definately be the one.
  DRIVER GEORGE SCOTT OF THE R.F.A. KILLED IN ACTION ON 7thJUNE 1917
  ELDER SON OF MR WILLIAM SCOTT, 3 WEENSLAND ROAD, HAWICK
  BEFORE ENLISTING HE WAS EMPLOYED WITH SAUCHIE CO-OPERATIVE
  SOCIETY, ALLOA, HAVING PREVIOUSLY SERVED AN APPRENTICESHIP WITH
  HAWICK CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETY. ANOTHER SON, WILLIAM WAS KILLED AT
  GALLIPOLI ON 12th JULY 1915.
  Then i found
  THE FOLLOWING WERE REPORTED KILLED IN THE FIGHTING AT THE
  DARDANELLES ON 12th JULY 1915-------
  including
  PRIVATE WILLIAM SCOTT SON OF MR WILLIAM SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD,
  HAWICK. HE IS 23 YEARS OF AGE.
  Then i found
  PRIVATE ROBERT SCOTT K.O.S.B. REPORTED KILLED WHILE WORKING
  AMONGST SALVAGE WAR MATERIAL. HE IS THE YOUNGEST SON OF MR AND
  AND MRS W SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD WHO HAVE LOST ALL THREE OF
  THEIR SONS, GEORGE, WILLIAM AND ROBERT, IN THE WAR.
  PRIVATE R SCOTT WAS PRIOR TO ENLISTMENT, IN THE FISH DEPARTMENT
  OF THE HAWICK CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETY AND WAS 22 YEARS OF AGE.
  Roll of Hawick men who made the great sacrafice has
  SCOTT DRIVER GEORGE R.F.A SON OF MR W SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD.AGE 29
  SCOTT PTE ROBERT K.O.S.B. SON OF MR W SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD. AGE 22
  SCOTT PTE WILLIAM 1/4th K.O.S.B SON OF MR WILLIAM SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND
  RD, AGE 23
  In another book which shows where they are buried i have
  ROBERT SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD 19/9/18 VIELLE CHAPELLE NEW[F]
  WILLIAM SCOTT 3 WEENSLAND RD 12/7/15 HELLES MEMORIAL[T]
  and it has
  GEORGE SCOTT 6/6/17 4 UNION ST 6/6/17 VLAMERTINGHE NEW CEM[B]
  It has them marked as being brothers but the address is different and
  the date is one day out. Could be a mistake.
    bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 24 February 07 17:05 GMT (UK) »

Thank you so much - this has filled in a lot of detail which makes other things make sense now.  We are virtually sure this is the correct one.  hmg
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 24 February 07 17:52 GMT (UK) »

  Hi hmg
   Forgot to say that there are pictures of all three brothers.
If you would like them I could get my pal to scan them and send them
to my computer then i could foreward them to you if you can send me a
private message with your e-mail address.
bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 21:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,
What a fabulous site.  Have just started tracing the Scottish bit of our family tree and what do I find but you chatting about my husband's great grandfathers brother - John Huggan, father Thomas Huggan, mother Jessie Douglas.  Bougie you mention that you have a photo of him - would you be able to send me a copy please and any more info it has about him- it would be fabulous to show his great niece.
Thank you so much in anticipation.
Hollis
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bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 22:42 GMT (UK) »

  Hi Hollis
  Welcome to roots chat. Yes this is a great site. I have had help from many
people in many different parts of the country in tracing my family tree.
In regards to the photo you would like, thats no problem but i will have to
get my pal to scan it and send it to my computer first. May take about a week.
I have recieved your email address.
  bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 14 March 07 21:06 GMT (UK) »

Thank you so much Bougie,
I can't wait it will be fabulous to put a face to one of the many names in our tree.
H
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 March 07 00:54 GMT (UK) »

Hello Bougie,
If you wouldn't mind, could you look up Sgt. Frank Walker of the Royal Fusiliers. He ended up marrying a German girl in Cologne in 1922 and went on to be Vice-Consul at the British Consulate in Zurich. His brother was John Henry Walker, my grandfather. They may have lived at 1 Laing Terrace, Hawick.
Also John Nelson, my grandmothers brother may have been at the Somme. His mum and dad were Robert and Margaret Nelson of 5 Garfield Street.
Bougie, I want to say on behalf of everyone who has taken advantage of your kind generosity...a very hearty THENKS LAD !!!!
Regards Hawickborn.
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WALKER, Ednam/Hawick.
NELSON, Hawick/Middlebie.
MIDDLEMISS, Yetholm/Ednam.
FURNESS, Denholm.
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 19:28 BST (UK) »

   Hi Hollis
 I'm sorry that you haven't recieved your photo yet. My friend was ill [better now] Then i had family issues [also okay now] Then computer problems[seems
 to be working okay now] . Your picture will be on its way in the next week.
   sorry again
  bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 24 April 07 19:53 BST (UK) »

   Hi Hawickborn[were you born here?]
   Sorry its taken so long to reply. I've had a few probs.
 The bad news is none of the names you mentioned are in the book.
 There can be reasons for this such as the book was published so quickly
 after the war that a few names were missed or the families didn't notify them,
 or other reasons. Only a few were omitted and its bad luck that both of yours
 were.  There are other Walkers and Nelsons in there are others in your family
 that served.
   So sorry
  bougie
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 05:07 BST (UK) »

Hello Bougie,
Thank you for looking the Nelson and Walker soldiers for me. I just happened upon your post one day. Your book seems to be a pretty interesting one.
My grandmother Walker,(nee Nelson), only had one brother, John, and we have no records of her father being at war. Granny's brother-in-law, Frank, went on to be vice-consul for the British Embassy in Zurich.
Yes, I was born and raised in Hawick. We left when Beeching closed the railway line in 1969, my late dad worked for BR as a signalman. After hemming and hawing about emigrating to Canada or Australia, dad decided that he wanted to be close to Hawick. I think I ended up doing all the travelling for him !
Still have a few family members there, and I try to get back often....bit o' a trek from the Yukon !!!
Thanks again Bougie and keep up the good work.
Glad to hear everything has settled down for you now.
Cheers Sandra.
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BURNS,Hawick.
WALKER, Ednam/Hawick.
NELSON, Hawick/Middlebie.
MIDDLEMISS, Yetholm/Ednam.
FURNESS, Denholm.
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 25 April 07 22:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Bougie,

Hope all is well now.  Thanks for letting me know. Looking forward to seeing the picture all the more now because I have found his signing up papers and more details of his address etc in Canada.  This family ancestry is incredibly additictive and rewarding!.

Regards

Hollis
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 02:11 BST (UK) »

Hi Bougie,

I wonder if you could look up my grandfather's uncle in your book. He was Richard Musgrave, son of Rebecca Musgrave. He was living in Hawick in 1891 at Slitry Hard (does that sound right?), and the family lived there ever after. He was born in 1886. He was in a Canadian Infantry Battalion and he was killed in action in 1917.
If you are able to find them, it would be great.

Thanks,
Stephanie
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Wiltshire: Hibberd, Fray, Hunt
London: Lansdown, Fossett, Proctor, Reynolds, Gwin, Durell, Butler
Northumberland: Oxnard
Yorkshire: Agar, Walker, Banks
Leicestershire: Coltman, Hardy
Cumberland: Musgrave, Armstrong
Roxburghshire: Coltman, Douglas
Dumfriesshire: Musgrave, Armstrong
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Re: Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 20:27 BST (UK) »

  Hi Stephanie
  I think this may be the one though the address is different.
SERGT RICHARD MUSGRAVE, CANADIANS , WHO WAS AWARDED THE MILITARY
MEDAL FOR BRAVERY IN THE FIELD.
HE IS THE SON OF MRS MUSGRAVE, 21 DRUMLANRIG SQUARE, HAWICK, AND
PRIOR TO GOING TO CANADA WAS IN THE EMPLOYMENT OF MR ATKINSON,
AUCTIONEER.
A COMRADE OF THE DECEASED WRITING TO MRS MUSGRAVE SAID-;
"YOUR BOY WAS ONE OF THE BEST THAT EVER WAS CONNECTED TO THE
REGIMENT. OUT OF THE TRENCHES OR ON PARADE HE WAS ALL THAT A SOLDIER SHOULD BE. HE WAS SMART , KEEN, AND CHEERFUL, AND CARRIED
WITH HIM THE FRIENDSHIP OF ALL WHO CAME IN CONTACT WITH HIM.
HE WAS A BRAVE BOY FEARLESS AND ALWAYS ENCOURAGING OTHERS
TO DO WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS RIGHT, AND HE DIED AT THE HEAD OF THE
PARTY HE WAS IN CHARGE OF. YOUR SON WAS ONE OF THE "TERIES" WHO
HAVE DONE SUCH SPLENDID WORK, AND WHO HAVE LAID DOWN THEIR
LIVES FOR THEIR COUNTRY AND ITS CAUSE".
There is a photo of him also.
     Hope this is the right one
       bougie
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