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bougie
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I have a very old book entitled Hawick and the Great War 1914-1919
which belonged to my grandfather. It contains the names [and in most
cases a picture ] of every Hawick man that fought in WW1 even if they no
longer lived in the town .There is a little bit about where they fought [and in
a lot of cases died],their regiment,their family and their home address at
the time of the war.
If anyone would like me to look up any of their family in it i would be glad to
oblige.
bougie.
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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bry-l
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Hi Boogie,
If you can find any information on my grandfather John Learmonth dob 19/03/1896 at 52 Loan (I think), Hawick and served with the KOSB at gallipoli.
I have not used this site before so don't know if you need an email address or slowmail address.
Thanks in anticipation
bry-l
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Young, Learmonth, Bell, Hogg, Fairgrieve, Somers, Cullen, Russell, Stephens, Anderson, King, Archibald, Cowan, Cleghorn & Lees
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bougie
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Hi bry-l
Welcome to Roots Chat. I'm sure you will find it very helpful when trying
to trace your family. I have. There's always someone willing to help if
they can .
The bad news is that i can't find your grandfathers name in this book
although that does not mean that he isn't pictured as some of the pictures
are of full battallions or regiments. The people who compiled this book
did so to the best of their ability and appologise for any omissions.
[It was written just after the war].
Can you tell me his exact regiment and battalion.
I found this in the 1901 census.
19 Howegate Hk
Adam Learmonth 30 Wood carter b. Hawick
Janet " " 31 b.Hawick
John " " 5 b. Hawick
If this is the correct one they lived directly across the road from my
grandfathers family.[The houses are still there]. My late father was born
there in 1920 and my mother was also brought up in that area and she
can remember this family.
bougie
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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bougie
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bry-l
Did you get last message i sent you. If not ,log in and click on
messages at top of page.
bougie
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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Terie
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Hi Bougie,
could you please check for any mention of 3 Huggan family members I am researching, killed in the Great War.
John Huggan husband of Wihelmina Parker,father Thomas Huggan,mother Jessie Douglas.
William Huggan, John's brother.
James Jeffrey Huggan,husband of Isabella Clark,father John Huggan,mother Mary Welsh.
James J Huggan was a cousin of John and William Huggan.
I believe William and James lived in Hawick and John had immigrated to Canada.
Thanks for any help,
Amanda,
Canada.
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Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.
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bougie
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Hi Amanda
Found as follows; Private John Huggan of the Canadians, reported
to have died from wounds recieved in action. Son of the late Thomas
Huggan, dyehouse worker, Hawick, and brother of George Huggan
10 Bright street. The deceased's wife and child live in North Vancouver.;
Private W Huggan K.O.S.B. Youngest son of the late Thomas Huggan
dyehouse worker 1 Allars Bank was officially reported to have died
from wounds. The chaplain writing to the relatives said "I can truly
state he died a little hero. It is a great sacrafice you and he have made
but i encourage you with the thought that he gave his life for God and
the right and what we pay now will be made up to us a thousand fold
hereafter.;
Gunner J Huggan R.G.A. who died of wounds on 5th November 1918
,was employed as a frameworker-knitter at Messrs A P Innes prior to
enlisting. His wife and two children reside at 8 Gladstone Street.
There are pictures of Private John Huggan and Gunner J Huggan but
none of Private W Huggan.
At the back of the book is the roll of honour of the men who made the
great sacrafice; Huggan Pte W, K.O.S.B, age 19 youngest son of the
late Thomas Huggan 1 Bright Street.;Huggan Pte John, Canadians,
son of the late Thomas Huggan.;Huggan Gunner James J ,.R.G.A.,
8 Gladstone st , son of Mr John Huggan, 1 Drumlanrig Square, age 30;
There is one more Huggan in the book a son of a William Huggan.
Let me know if you need that one
If you want copies of the photos let me know. I don't have a scanner
but i may be able to get my son to scan them and send them to my
computer.
bougie
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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gazania
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I am unable to give you precise details of Armstrong relatives who could have served in WW1 from Hawick as I only have details up to the 1901 census as our branch migrated to OZ from Hawick in the 1880s. I could not find any deaths on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission for these realtives. But if it is not too much trouble are there any details for the following:
John A# son of Thomas & Christina of 9 Wellogate Place, Hawick
(there are older brothers - David, William Thomas)
Henry Telfer son of Henry Telfer and Jane Stewart Armstrong, of 5 Howegate Hawick.
(I see that you have an interest in Armstrongs from Canonbie. Above Armstrongs arrived in Hawick from Canonbie etc by the 1881 census)
Thank you. Gazania
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ALDERMAN, Bucks
CARLING, Bedfordshire
CUNDITH,CUNDILL, Yorkshire
FOX, Essex
LANE, Clifton, Bristol
VOLLER, Surrey
WAREHAM, Esher, Surrey
WINCH, Surrey
ARMSTRONG, Hawick ROX, Canonbie, Hutton & Corrie, Wamphray, DFS
LAWSON, Canonbie, DFS
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Terie
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Hi Bougie,
thank you very much for the quick response,
I am interested in the other Huggan you mentioned, a son of William Huggan,
could you send the entry whenever you have time please, I have not come across him before,
Also is there any mention of Mark F Crozier,age 26yrs,KOSB,killed 1918, son of Archibald Crozier?
I think he is connected to the Crozier family I am researching.
Thank you,
Amanda.
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Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.
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bougie
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Hi gazania
Not much luck. Nearest is KILLED IN ACTION , PTE JOHN ARMSTRONG
BROTHER OF MRS E C SCOTT;; MISSING IN ACTION, PTE JOHN ARMSTRONG
5th CAMERON HIGHLANDERS;;
Then there's a LCE CPL WILLIAM A# SON OF WILLIAM A#
SAPPER THOMAS A# SON OF WILLIAM A#
SGT JOHN A# SON OF FRANK A#
LIEUT LESLIE A# SON OF THOMAS A#
There are other Armstrongs but no name matches;
Telfers are, ROBERT T# SON OF T. K. TELFER; JAMES T# SON OF
WILLIAM T# ; ADAM T# SON OF ANDREW T#; and JAMES T# SON OF
GILBERT T#.
If any of these are of any interest let me know.
Ilive in Hawick so if i can help with anything else let me know.
My Armstrong interests are WILLIAM and SARAH A# MS CHAMBERS
married Canonbie 1804. Their dau Janet married Robert Mcvittie
Wish i could have been more help to you.
bougie
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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bougie
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Hi Amanda
SGT J HUGGAN 167th A.T.co, R.E;WHO WAS AWARDED THE D.C.M.
IS THE SON OF THE LATE WILLIAM HUGGAN, DAMSIDE, HAWICK AND
IS MARRIED TO ONE OF THE MISSES PRINGLE, VICTORIA TEMPERENCE
HOTEL, HK, . HE ENLISTED IN 1915 WHEN HE CAME ACROSS FROM
CALIFORNIA AND AFTER TRAINING PROCEEDEDTO EGYPT AND
SUBSEQUENTLY TO FRANCE.[no picture].
Also noticed ;PRISONER OF WAR, HUGGAN CPL W. CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Also; KILLED IN ACTION; CROZIER SGT MARK. K.O.S.B. 3 CARNARVON ST
HAWICK [no picture] I'm afraid thats all it says about Mark Crozier.
Hope this all helps
bougie
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Bouglas, Hogg, Crozier,Selkirkshire.; Duff,Berwickshire. Hogarth,Berwickshire.; Short,Blythe,Moore and Sproat, Ettrick; Offord,Gould,Essex; Mcvittie,Langholm.;Armstrong,Chambers, Cononbie.
Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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gazania
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Dear Bougie,
You have been a great help. The book contains some very interesting and poignant information about Hawick people who wished to remember the men of WW1.
I am waiting on the 1911 census to see what happened to our Armstrongs in Hawick, but then they may have migrated. Perhaps I may have more precise information for a search in the book.
Our Armstrongs start with Thomas A# of Wamphray who married Margaret Lawson of Canonbie in 1814. They had 7 children. Two daughters, Jessie and Mary, choosing to keep the Armstrong name going, had between them 7 children mostly girls. Jessie and Mary and their offspring were living in Hawick by the 1881 census. One of Jessie's sons, Adam A#, migrated to OZ in the mid 1880s. Thank you for your offer of help with Hawick information. I'll get thinking. Again thank you very much. Gazania
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ALDERMAN, Bucks
CARLING, Bedfordshire
CUNDITH,CUNDILL, Yorkshire
FOX, Essex
LANE, Clifton, Bristol
VOLLER, Surrey
WAREHAM, Esher, Surrey
WINCH, Surrey
ARMSTRONG, Hawick ROX, Canonbie, Hutton & Corrie, Wamphray, DFS
LAWSON, Canonbie, DFS
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Terie
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Hi Bougie,thank you again for the info, I have not been able to ID SGT J Huggan yet,he could be either John,James or even Jared, I will check the CWGC site again and try to find his marriage to Miss Pringle.
Will post if I find anything further,
Amanda.
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Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.
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Terie
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Hi Bougie,
I found the marriage of John Huggan to Jane Pringle,1915, he was the son of Thomas Huggan and Mary Stott, he would have been a grandson of William Huggan of Damside and therefore a second cousin of the Huggan men we already discussed, was Sgt John Huggan,D.C.M, killed in WW1? I did not find him on the CWGC website,
thank you again,
Amanda.
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Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.
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bougie
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Hi Amanda
Sgt J Huggan D.C.M seems to have survived the war as far
as i can tell.
Cprl W. Huggan [prisoner of war] of the Cameron Highlanders
aslo survived.
bougie
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Moore,Ewes Dumfriesshire;
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hmg
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I wonder if you could look up my grandmother's first husband who was called George Scott and originated from Hawick? We know he died in 1917 but are not sure which regiment he was in or even whether or not he could have been a conscientious objector who was nevertheless sent to the field of war. Thank you!
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