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Topic: Sharpen Needed for identification PLS (Read 538 times)
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neil1821
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You would think the people in the military section would be able to tell by that then instead of asking for a close up of the hat, colar, or buckle. wouldn't you. OH well ours are not to reason why etc......pmsl.
Neither the Irish nor the Welsh Guards existed at this time.
On the discussion re buttons, IF he was in the Guards, the single buttons (rather than in groups) would make him Grenadier Guards. Although I have to say the headgear looks wrong for the Grenadiers to me. As does what we can see of the collar badges.
I'd honestly have to say that the Guards is a red herring in this case. Hence the request for close-ups. If we're talking about 1880s, I could try medal rolls. Grenadier Guards were in Egypt in 1882, so I'll start there.
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Neil, Did any of them come out here to Australia. I can't find an imigration date or record of any kind and I was wondering if he could have come out with regiment and descided to stay. Is this possible?
Deirdre
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Derbyshire - HUNT, BRADFORD, Worcestershire - NOTT, BROOKING, Glasgow - CAMPBELL, Gloucestershire - BATEMAN, CHURCHILL, Ireland - McGILL, McDONALD, ILAND[also Ireland Irland](possible Manchester). Australia - UNDERWOOD, BROOM/MCBROOM
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Neil, I'm just going to try and put this photograph I pinched from a website to see what you think
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Lidster, Mellanby, Milburn, Laidler, Peart, Thornton, Catterson, How, Ingleby, Ramage, Sedgewick, Collinson....... Co.Durham
Ingleby....Derbyshire
Ellwood, Rigg, Gibson, Park, Fothergill.....Westmorland
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Tom McC
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Hi all,
The chap in the photograph is definitely not a guardsman because of 3 identification features:
1. The collar badges look like stars, if he was a Guardsman, then he would be Coldstream Guards - but the Coldstream Guards wore their buttons in pairs.
2. The tunic - the Guards never wore a 'trefoil' on their cuff. This was a line Regiment dress from 1871 to the early 1880s after which the jam-pot cuff was worn.
3. The Guards never wore a glengarry. They kept a peakless forage cap for the other ranks and a peaked forage cap for the SNCOs.
He looks like a soldier of a Royal Line Regiment with star shaped collar badges.
Hope this helps
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Tom McC
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No...I know that Tom, he's actually 85th Light Infantry around 1880, maybe you can't quite see the bugle on his collar. The man in Deirdre's photograph does have the same trefoil on the cuff and the buttons close up, are the same eight pointed star shape as is the collar badge. This jacket is red and the trousers blue which again could be the same, looking closer at Deirdre's photograph. Some of the Militia companies of the Infantry did seem to wear the cheesecutter type hat and a small 'fur type' for dress.
I'm starting to sound like a 'bit of an expert'...lol.....I know nothing about the forces Tom......I just got carried away trying to find something for Dierdre.
I thought maybe the Sussex Militia or one of the regiments from that area (Duke of Cornwalls, West Somerset).
Jean
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Lidster, Mellanby, Milburn, Laidler, Peart, Thornton, Catterson, How, Ingleby, Ramage, Sedgewick, Collinson....... Co.Durham
Ingleby....Derbyshire
Ellwood, Rigg, Gibson, Park, Fothergill.....Westmorland
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Tom McC
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Jean,
I am not on about your post, in fact I didn't even know it was part of the discussion 
I am on about the picture of the soldier that has been sharpened up. Apologies if the confusion has caused any alarm
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Tom McC
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