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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 15 February 07 08:22 GMT (UK) »

Dalston, a few km's south of Carlisle is as close as I get to Alston.  How is the research going?

Regards, Bruce
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« Reply #76 on: Thursday 15 February 07 08:24 GMT (UK) »

Sorry Bob,

I should have asked.. where are you researching and what names?

Regards, Bruce
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #77 on: Thursday 15 February 07 12:29 GMT (UK) »

Locally, I'm researching Grahams and Greenops on fathers side. Greenops much easier than Grahams are there are so few of them. Further afield it gets worse as grandfather and grandmother on mothers side were both Smith!
I actually live in Carlisle but trying to persuade my wife that I need to retire to France.
Got both Grahams and Greenops back to 1800. They can be seen at
http://gw0.geneanet.org/bobgraham 
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #78 on: Thursday 15 February 07 22:46 GMT (UK) »

MMM! being new to rootschat, how do I get that little para underneath telling everyone whom I'm interested in?
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #79 on: Thursday 15 February 07 22:58 GMT (UK) »

MMM! being new to rootschat, how do I get that little para underneath telling everyone whom I'm interested in?
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Hi Bob,
check out the Profile button at the top of the page
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 01 May 07 21:21 BST (UK) »

Reading this thread,  particularly Papamoa’s posts, I noticed a number of names and places that rang bells from searching my husband’s Ferguson ancestors who hail from Kirklinton.  Thomas Ferguson lived at Moathill  from around 1750 until his death in 1779. His wife and surviving sons continued to live there well into the 1790s.  Papamoa – what you say about Moathill’s location  confirms my deductions. Have you actually found it on a map, or know any more about the place ?

Thomas’s sons appear to have had a “thing” for the Graham ladies:

Alexander  Ferguson married Mary Graham of Newtown in 1788.

Thomas Ferguson and Elizabeth Graham of Newbiggen had two illegitimate sons, William in 1783 and Thomas in 1786. In 1789 he married Margaret Graham of Newtown.

Richard Ferguson married Isabella Graham of Newtown in 1793. In 1800 & 1801 they were at Newbiggen according to the  baptism and burial record sof their son William.

(Only my husband’s 3 x great grandfather John bucked the trend by marrying a Sarah Barnes.)

Does anyone have more information on these Graham ladies? Are they from the same family?
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 01 May 07 21:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Penny,

Yes I have located where "Moathill" was, better still I have photographs of waht remains of the house, just some rubble in a field.

If you would like to send me your E-Mail address, I can send you copies of the photos.

We may be able to find some family connection together.

Regards, Bruce
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« Reply #82 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 12:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Jessy,  I know this is not about the Graham's  but you state you live in the gamekeepers cottage do you have any details of the gamekeeper's that have lived there as my great great grandfather John Tuddenham was a gamekeeper I believe for this estate. He would of been there about 1837 and he was from Norfolk originally.   I would be very gratefully for any information.  Norma
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Flintshire. Williams. Griffiths. Clarke. Hopwood.
Cheshire. Darlington. Stubbs.
Staffordshire. Darlington. Stubbs. Fieldhouse. Biddulph.
Lancashire. Johnson/Johnston. Bebbington. Harris. Pimlott.
Cumberland. Marriner. Tuddenham. Crozier, Bell. Johnson/Johnston. Norman.
Northumberland. Huckle. Marriner. Leathard. Common
Norfolk. Tuddenham. Rolfe. Rosier.

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 17:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Papamoa

I have a William Graham (b Hethersgill, Kirklinton, c1818), possibly son of Jane Graham (b c1776), whose first wife was Sarah Holliday and whose second wife was Jane Lidderdale. In the interim, he appears to have fathered children to his house keeper Ann Gordon.

Children of William Graham are (or appear to be):

John Graham b Walton, Brampton 1844 (mother Sarah Holliday)
William Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton 19/12/1845 (mother Sarah Holliday)
Thomas Gordon b Hethersgill, Kirklinton 30/11/1847(mother Ann Gordon)
Mary Gordon b Hethersgill, Kirklinton 04/12/1849 (mother Ann Gordon)
David Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton 21/07/1852 (mother Jane Lidderdale)
Jane Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton c1853 (mother Jane Lidderdale)
Sarah Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton 25/12/1856 (mother Jane Lidderdale)
Margaret Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton c1859 (mother Jane Lidderdale)
George J Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton c1862 (mother Jane Lidderdale)
Elizabeth Graham b Hethersgill, Kirklinton c1864 (mother Jane Lidderdale)

William Graham Snr was living at Leaps Flosh 1844, Yad Hill 1845, and Cocklet Hill 1851, all  Hethersgill, Kirklinton.

P.S. Spent two sublime holidays at Papamoa Beach, Tauranga, 2004/5 and, yes, climbed Mount Maunganui
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #84 on: Thursday 03 May 07 16:01 BST (UK) »

Hi,  Having been looking at my Marriner and Tuddenham family again I have found my Great great great grandfather Jonathan Bell married a Mary Graham 1841. He has had children with a Margaret Crozier ( which is my line) not married and then marries a Jane Moody 1824 before marring Mary.  Does anyone have any information on this family connection, possible parents of the three people named.  Many thanks.  Norma
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North Wales Denbighshire .Williams. Hopwood.
Flintshire. Williams. Griffiths. Clarke. Hopwood.
Cheshire. Darlington. Stubbs.
Staffordshire. Darlington. Stubbs. Fieldhouse. Biddulph.
Lancashire. Johnson/Johnston. Bebbington. Harris. Pimlott.
Cumberland. Marriner. Tuddenham. Crozier, Bell. Johnson/Johnston. Norman.
Northumberland. Huckle. Marriner. Leathard. Common
Norfolk. Tuddenham. Rolfe. Rosier.

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 27 May 07 19:52 BST (UK) »

Hi, My Graham family come mostly from the Workington Cumberland area. David Graham b.1793 married Mary Sharp b.1787 at St Michaels Workington 1818 son John Graham b.1820 m. Jane Hodgson. Other siblings of David &Mary were Isabella b.1822,Jane b.1824. Richard b.1826
If they ring any bells,please let me know. So many Grahams !
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #86 on: Friday 17 August 07 13:37 BST (UK) »

Hi to all who are reading this thread. 

I have reasonably comprehensive extractions of The Bishop's Transcripts for Arthuret, Kirklinton & St Cuthbert's Carlisle.  All Graham names I'm sorry.

Hi Bruce,
when you are back from Cumberland, could you send me a transcript of the baptism entry for William Graham?

Bapt. Arthuret 8 JUN 1764, son of Robert G. and Frances.

Hope you enjoyed your trip and found some news?
If you are interested in monument for this capt. Graham or gravestone of Lady Catherine Graham nee Stewart, d 1836, let me know.

Regards,
Elisabeth
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 12:39 BST (UK) »

I have started researching the Grahams of Cumberland to get information on my Graham side of the family. Does anyone have information about the Grahams of Egremont. My mother Mary was a Graham, her father John Ewart Graham born in 31 December 1886 was an Iron Ore miner at the Florence Pit all his life, and his father William Graham born in Egremont in 1859 was also an Iron Ore miner. I do believe that Williams father was also a William, and was also an Iron Ore miner, but to date I have not been very successful in establishing that. What I do know is that 'my Grahams' were all from the Egremont and St.Bees area, right back to the early part of the 1800's. There is a Liverpool connection too in that a Graham went to work in service in Liverpool - that could be George who was born in 1858, or a daughter called Minon. Can anyone help?
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #88 on: Friday 12 September 08 16:16 BST (UK) »

Hi...

I've just discovered that my GGGG Grandmother was Elizabeth GRAHAM born abt. 1766 in Nook, Nichol Forest, Cumberland and she married John FORSTER (or FORRESTER) on 25 Jul 1785 in Nichol Forest.  Her father was William GRAHAM born abt 1721.  He married an Elizabeth Scott.

If anyone has these people in their tree I'd love to hear from you.

BTW the updated Dodgson Manuscript found on http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/3333/routledge.html mentions many GRAHAMs from Cumberland.

Cheers,
Diane
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« Reply #89 on: Sunday 14 September 08 16:03 BST (UK) »

Tansylee,
My ancestor David Graham was living in the parish of St Bees
( 1841 census ) He was born abt.1791 ,his wife was Mary.( nee Sharp )
chilldren were David,Isabella,Jane,John,B.1821 Thomas & William.
Any connection to your Grahams ?
My Graham ancestors ,John (grt grandfather x 2 ) b.1821 moved to Birkenhead, Wirral,the other side of the River Mersey to Liverpool.
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