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Offline Carawa

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Newry Newspapers 1872
« on: Sunday 21 January 07 02:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have an ancestor Thomas Gordon who was killed in an accident in New Zealand on 10 February 187. He had emigrated  from Northern Ireland to Australia with his brother William in the 1830's. His parents were Thomas Gordon and Jane Martin and his father was a farmer.

We have fund it difficult to trace him. When he died, his death notice in New Zealand says Newry papers please copy. What I want to know is: Are these papers still available, how easy are they to access and are they likely to give us any further info.

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Carawa    ???


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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 May 07 22:30 BST (UK) »
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
this is the web address for the news paper archive in new zealand,you should find what you are looking for there...sue
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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 00:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Carawa,

I am another descendant of Thomas Gordon from Newry.  I, along with many others, am also stuck on getting information about his life in Ireland.  I would like to share information with you.

Heather.

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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 13:29 BST (UK) »
try Ros Davies Co Down website
GORDON family Newry private graveyard in Savalmore belonging to the family from Maryvale in Carnacully townland MIs
William GORDON . Newry family burying plot c. 1750; St. Patrick's Church of Ireland graveyard MIs 

one newspaper held at PRONI is
Newry Commercial Telegraph, later Newry Telegraph
   
1823-24, 1826-28, 1832, 1835, 1838-39, 1845, 1850-55, 1857-58, 1860-61, 1863, 1869-70, 1873, 1881, 1885-88, 1893-94, 1901-04, 1906-07, 1910, 1913
 N/6/1
 there were several others eg Newry Journal but I cant locate holdings for you.
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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 13:32 BST (UK) »
Another site is Bagenals castle and then their family history section searched for "" "Gordon"

Source Number of Results
Flaxgrowers' List > 8
Householders' Index > 8
Newry householders, British Parliamentary Papers > 4
Crossle Papers > 3
Newry Town Agricultural Census 1803 (D/654/A2/29) > 5
Kilmorey Estate Leases > 1
List of Voters for Newry 1868 > 7
Newry Directory 1900 > 9
Calendar of Wills Newry > 6
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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have an ancestor Thomas Gordon who was killed in an accident in New Zealand on 10 February 187. He had emigrated  from Northern Ireland to Australia with his brother William in the 1830's. His parents were Thomas Gordon and Jane Martin and his father was a farmer.

We have fund it difficult to trace him. When he died, his death notice in New Zealand says Newry papers please copy. What I want to know is: Are these papers still available, how easy are they to access and are they likely to give us any further info.

Regards

Carawa    ???

Hiya Carawa,

The Newspaper Library at the Central Library, Royal Avenue, Belfast holds the following Newry papers ...

The Commercial Telegraph which later became the Telegraph 1870s to 1960
Examiner on microfilm 1870s to 1887 and then on and off (ie not a complete run) to 1950
Reporter 1870s and still going
Standard 1870s and still going

I'll post the holdings of the Armagh Irish and Local Studies Library and the Newry Library later.

Chris

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 15:46 BST (UK) »
There are several Gordon manuscript family trees in the Blackwood Family history manuscripts in the LinenHall library, Belfast.  The volume references are as follows
Vol 5p97 Highlands, Vol 10p49 Saintfield, Vol 16p96 Glasgar, Vol 27T Saintfield, Vol 33 Drumaness, Vol 35T Highlands, Vol 42 Campbell, Vol 43 Centrefold, Vol 60 by P Crossle,volume  Vol 87 County Down by P Crossle. 
Gordon (an unnumbered?) MS in book section. 
I think that author Crossle had Newry connections, so volumes 60 and 87 would be where I start from.
I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if both you and they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707,  Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email: info[AT]linenhall.com.

On the internet are
bbs.mayo-ireland.ie/webx?.ee6b2c2
bbs.mayo-ireland.ie/WebX?50@7.bHwObDwBwxN.0@.3b9dead3
in particular by Robert Gordon Wilson his yahoo email is recorded there
“James Gordon II was born in 1693 in Newry, County Down, Northern Ireland. He resided at Sheepbridge House in Sheepbridge, Newry, Down Co., Ireland about 1710.”
I think a check on Landed Gentry of Ireland would not go amiss.
 Ros Davies’s Co Down website is helpful on Sheepbridge and Gordon
Good Luck, Jim


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Re: Newry Newspapers 1872
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hiya Carawa,
Have I missed a message ??? Are you planning to visit Belfast ???

Armagh Library ...

The Commercial Telegraph which later became the Telegraph 1813 and then 1828 - 1870 to 1960
Examiner on microfilm 1832 to 1950
Reporter - Armagh Library do not hold this paper as it's in the Newry Library
Standard 1879 and still going

Ros Davies' Co. Down, Ireland Genealogy Research Site is short on guys named Thomas Gordon in Newry.

Newry Library Mostly on microfilm

The Commercial Telegraph which later became the Telegraph 1828 onward 
Reporter - 1867 to the present
The Nation - October 1842 to December 1850
The Frontier Sentinel - October 1904 to August 1972

Christopher

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 May 07 21:38 BST (UK) »
See http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp to bring in the connections to Thomas. eg
Thomas GORDON (AFN: 2T8W-Q4)  Pedigree
  Birth:   1792   
 Christening:   Mar 1792
  Of Newry, Down, Ireland
 Death:   D. YOUNG
Parents:
 Father:  William GORDON (AFN: 2T8W-GQ)  Family 
 Mother:  Elizabeth GILLESPIE (AFN: 2T8W-HW) 
there is much work to be done if you go back that generation that is so close, good luck, I'm off on other queries from now, Jim
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