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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 22 January 07 12:23 GMT (UK) »

Ouch, Romilly!! 

I take it your grandmother can't/couldn't shed any light on his mysterious disappearance!

If he had another wife and family, he could have changed his name or anything!! Sad Sad Cry Cry Cry

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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 22 January 07 12:30 GMT (UK) »

I have my GGrandfather here in 1871 and 1881,I have pretty good idea he went back to Canada in1886,and died there in 1903!it's his beginnings I would love to know!
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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 22 January 07 12:37 GMT (UK) »




Well now, I do believe EVERYONE knows of Ernest, who vanished after his birth in 1887 and who reappeared for his marriage in 1912.     So I wont bore you with the minutia of the problem.   But he's out there somewhere and I can't find him and he's driving me nuts - nuts do you hear me stark raving absatively posalutely NUTS with no hope in sight for what little remains of my sanity . . . ... .   La la la  !!!


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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 22 January 07 12:49 GMT (UK) »

Ouch, Romilly!! 
I take it your grandmother can't/couldn't shed any light on his mysterious disappearance!
If he had another wife and family, he could have changed his name or anything!! Sad Sad Cry Cry Cry
MarieC

Hi MarieC,

Unfortunately that Grandmother died in 1976...& apart from remembering that her father used to 'perform' at the Liberal Club in Greenwich, (I guess that he must have been some sort of Music Hall Comedian/or Stand-Up or something:-) she didn't have any other clues.

However, I do have a photo of him. (Now wouldn't it be funny if another Rootschatter recognised him as one of theirs!!). Grin Grin Grin

Romilly. Wink


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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 22 January 07 12:55 GMT (UK) »

Barbara,

How did I know you and Ernest would turn up on this thread LOL Huh  You ought to briefly set out again where you have looked for him, just in case someone has another bright idea! Grin  He's probably with my Edward and Eleanor somewhere, laughing!  (You've absolutely demonstrated how mad you are - but I knew that anyway!!!  Grin Grin)

Romilly, perhaps you ought to post his photo and name!  You never know, you might have a distant cousin here!!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Cool Cool

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:02 GMT (UK) »




Oh I couldn't go through it again Marie 'cos I've looked everywhere for him.  Everybody must be bored witless with him by now and if they see his name again in print they'll all go as dooolally as me - and we can't have that now can we!!     I can see it now, thousands of RCers walking round the streets of London asking perfect strangers . . .. . . . "Have you seen this man"     Nooooo, can't do that!!          Roll Eyes


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« Reply #21 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:07 GMT (UK) »

Romilly, perhaps you ought to post his photo and name!  You never know, you might have a distant cousin here!!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Cool Cool
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Hi Again,

I thought I had! But if it hasn't worked...his name was:

Thomas Louis NEWMAN (Approx dates 1860 - 1920).

Best Wishes, Romilly.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:10 GMT (UK) »




Oh I couldn't go through it again Marie 'cos I've looked everywhere for him.  Everybody must be bored witless with him by now and if they see his name again in print they'll all go as dooolally as me - and we can't have that now can we!!     I can see it now, thousands of RCers walking round the streets of London asking perfect strangers . . .. . . . "Have you seen this man"     Nooooo, can't do that!!          Roll Eyes


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I don't have to ask who you're talking about, Barbara  Grin

I've lost my great granddad on the 1861 but I do have him born (1856) and on the 1871 and from then on.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:24 GMT (UK) »

I have the same problem as you Gadget - my gg grandfather born in 1856 is nowhere to be found in 1861 (nor are his parents, siblings or grandfather) and reappears in 1871.  I have spent HOURS and HOURS hunting for them  Huh
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« Reply #24 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:31 GMT (UK) »

I have a George Bishop who slid off into the sunset around 1861 never to be seen again!

There he was - a jolly old ag lab (well, I like to think so!) on the 1851 census, living in Keyingham in East Yorkshire, working on the land and having a copious number of children.

Then - piff paff puff - by the 1861 census, he's gone! His wife Ann and family are still there (she says she is 'married' not widowed) but there is no sign of George. No death to be found, no George anywhere else on the 1861 census (there's a George Bishop in Kings Lynn who was born in the same place as my George, but he's a red herring! for tis not my George but - I think - a cousin.)

There is a clue as to what happened in that Ann has the baptism of her last child - James - on the IGI in 1858 with only her name as the mother; no father's name. Surely, if James was George's son but George had died between conception and birth, his name would still have been entered?

So, did George do a bunk after Ann had done a bunk-up with another man? (Sorry!!)

Or was he abducted by aliens?  Undecided

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 22 January 07 13:34 GMT (UK) »

There are quite a few EDs missing in the 1861. I heard that it was something to do with the transfer of responsibility from the Home Office to the Registrar General's Office. The HO kept them in poor conditions (and wouldn't hand them over)  or they were found in the basement of the Houses of Parliament or something like that  Huh Huh Huh

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 22 January 07 15:13 GMT (UK) »

I've got a Robert West (1837-1910)  who is buried in Worthing cemetry, together with his wife Harriett Lambert (1834-1910) and a grandaughter Lily (22-Sep-1892 to 25-Jun-1906).  The only problem is that Robert and Harriett had no children.  I've found them on every census but no trace of any children.

Mysteriously, they reckon they had a son called Charles who was born in Brighton or Worthing in 1856 (it depends which census you are looking at).  He turns up for the first time on the 1881 census living in Epsom, Surrey and by 1891 he is married with chidren in Epsom.  Meanwhile, Charles daughters are living with their alleged grandparents in Worthing.

How they managed to have grandchildren without having any children of their own is a mystery. Huh

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« Reply #27 on: Monday 22 January 07 18:42 GMT (UK) »

I've got a Robert West (1837-1910) who is buried in Worthing cemetry, together with his wife Harriett Lambert (1834-1910) and a grandaughter Lily (22-Sep-1892 to 25-Jun-1906). The only problem is that Robert and Harriett had no children. I've found them on every census but no trace of any children.

Mysteriously, they reckon they had a son called Charles who was born in Brighton or Worthing in 1856 (it depends which census you are looking at). He turns up for the first time on the 1881 census living in Epsom, Surrey and by 1891 he is married with chidren in Epsom. Meanwhile, Charles daughters are living with their alleged grandparents in Worthing.

How they managed to have grandchildren without having any children of their own is a mystery. Huh

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Have you considered getting Charles marriage cert, to see who he names as his father?  I know you said that Robert and Harriett had no children; but there is a couple of the right names and ages, in the 1861 census, whom have a two year old daughter Amelia Ellen (she sadly died in 1861).

It is very interesting that Charles names one of his sons Robert Henry!!  Also Charles was born 2 to 3 years before Robert and Harriett's marriage in 1858.  Possibly born illegitimately, but not by Harriett Huh

Anyway hopefully something will turn up for everyone on this thread, I have today, smashed down a brick wall on my husbands side, which has had me stumped for years; the mother of this child having had 5 husbands (that I have found) didn't help!!  By the way MarieC, I have you to thank for this, you had a thread on "Genealogy Gods" and you sent some luck; it took awhile to get here, but it was well worth it.  Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: Monday 22 January 07 21:40 GMT (UK) »

Evening all  Smiley

My most elusive (or is that most annoying - because I have let her get to  me  Wink) is my great grandmother Sarah Rosa Naomi Osburn b Hull 1880. I have her on all census and her birth.

She married Charles Nicholson in 1905 and had my gran in 1914. Alhough my gran was registered as Rhoda Thomas Nicholson her father was actually Henry Thomas (whomever he may be  Wink) She left  my gran c1919 in (we think) a Catholic orphange in Sheffield!!

I have recently discovered that SRN had four children with Charles that she also abandoned. I am in touch with their children though and we have a reunion planned in a couple of weeks  Smiley

This is the most exciting find I could have ever anticipated and I am totally over the moon - our familes were totally unbeknown to each other and the only shame is that the siblings are no longer around  Sad

HOWEVER, it doesn't answer the question as to where did the bl**dy woman go Huh Huh Huh Huh ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH  Roll Eyes

Roll on 2009  Wink

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 22 January 07 23:01 GMT (UK) »

Wow, four children. That is amazing. My ggg grandmother apparently abandoned her daughter, but I don't think she had any other. Maybe I better look into that now.

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