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allycat
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Hi there. My mother-in-law has asked me to trace her and her late husband's ancestry in New Zealand (hubby was adopted by them). We're in Australia.
Below is what is known to me at the present time. And another reminder that I should have checked the IGI at http://www.familysearch.org first because they had data on the CULLETONs there and more info on the LYONS. Details below.
John Newman LYONS born abt 1850 unknown location, died before 1925 (buried Lake Cemetery, West Point, Devonport, New Zealand). He married (1) 3 Oct 1869/1871 to Anastatia FLEMING born abt 1850 unknown location (died bef 1918 in New Zealand) and they had two known children that I can find (probably more). Married 1918 (2) Isabella Catherine MEYRICK born 26 Aug 1873 Christchurch, New Zealand, died 1968 New Zealand.
1.Ellena LYONS born 1871 Pukekohe East, New Zealand, died 7 Apr 1935 at Matariki Private Hospital, Te Awamutu, New Zealand. Religion: Roman Catholic. Buried 8 Apr 1935 Lot 227, Te Awamutu Cemetery, New Zealand. Married 1896 at Napier, New Zealand to John OLIVER born 1857 unknown, died 22 Aug 1943 Auckland, New Zealand, buried 24 Aug 1943 Te Awamutu Cemetery, New Zealand. No other details known.
2.James Thomas LYONS born 1887 New Zealand (source IGI), died 17 Mar 1976 Auckland, New Zealand (going by Probate Record + death date on IGI). Occupation: Master Painter. He married 4 Feb 1925 St Benedicts Church, Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand (source IGI) to Florence Genevieve CULLETON born abt 10 Sep 1894 Helensville, Auckland New Zealand, died abt 1977 New Zealand. Florence CULLETON was the daughter of Peter CULLETON and Annie Elizabeth MARRIOTT. James & Florence LYONS had five children:-
i) Dennis John LYONS born 30 Jan 1926 Grey Lynn, Auckland NZ, died 15 Feb 1930 New Zealand (source IGI).
ii) LIVING male LYONS
iii) LIVING male LYONS
iv) LIVING female LYONS
v) Barry James Joseph LYONS (my father-in-law) born 19 May 1934 Auckland, New Zealand. Married 1961 NZ to LIVING HUGHES. Emigrated to Australia 1969. Died 30 Mar 2003 QLD.
My father-in-law was always told that their family came from Ireland and that they were related to former 10th Prime Minister of Australia, Rt Hon. Joseph Aloysius LYONS who was born 15 Sep 1879 Stanley, Tasmania, Australia to Irish immigrants: Michael Henry LYONS and Ellen CARROLL. However, I am yet to find a connection. This is yet to be proved or disproved.
Hoping someone out there can assist?
Kind regards, Allycat.
SURNAMES: LYONS, FLEMING, MEYRICK, OLIVER, CULLETON, HUGHES, EADIE, SCOWN, HARRIS, EDGECOMBE, DENLY, BROWN, COULTER, PENDER, RENDALL, ORSMAN, CHEESMAN, TAMS, SHORTER, FREETH, SKINNER, DOBBIE, PETCH, MARRIOTT etc.
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bee29
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You may already have these but just in case ..
1881 Electoral Roll
Electorate Franklin South
Number 845
Surname LYONS
Given Names John Newman
Nature Of Qualification Freehold
Place Of Residence Tuimata
Occupation Labourer
For Property Qualification Part lot 82, Opaheke
1893 Electoral Roll
Surname LYONS
Given Name John Newman
Number 1807
Electorate Franklin
Voting Qualification Freehold
Residential Address Tuimata
Occupation Labourer
Property Detail Part lot 82, Opaheke
Surname LYONS
Given Name Anastatia
Number 3677
Electorate Franklin
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Tuhimata
Occupation Farmer
NZ Marriages
Year 1869
Folio 0337
Surname LYONS
Given Names John V
Sex M
Spouse FLEMING Anastasia
Year 1918
Folio 5495
Surname LYONS
Given Names John Newman
Sex M
Spouse MEYRICK Isabella Catherine
Year 1896
Folio 3498
Surname LYONS
Given Names Ellena
Sex F
Spouse OLIVER John
Year 1925
Folio 00320
Surname LYONS
Given Names James Thomas
Sex M
Spouse CULLETON Florence Genevieve
WW1 Service Personnel and Reserves Index
Surname LYONS
Given Name John Newman
Category First Reserves
Last NZ Address Surrey St Grey Lynn
Occupation Metal-worker &c
Recruiting District Auckland
Surname LYONS
Given Name James
Category First Reserves
Last NZ Address 11 Surrey St Grey Lynn
Occupation Decorator
Recruiting District Auckland
Surname LYONS
Given Name James
Category Nominal Rolls Vol 4
Regimental Number 74198
Rank Private
Next of Kin Title Mrs Anastasia
Next of Kin Surname LYONS
Next of Kin Relationship Mother
Next of Kin Address 11 Surrey Street Grey Lynn Auckland
Roll 82
Page 15
Occupation Decorator
Regards, Bronwen
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allycat
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Dear Bronwen, Hi there. Thank you sooo much for that information. No, I had none of it whatsoever. My goodness.
A bit extra though, my mother-in-law believes that John Newman LYONS is buried at Lake Cemetery, West Point, Devonport, New Zealand. We still don't know when he died, perhaps before 1925.
Any cemetery details online?
Alison.
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bee29
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Lots of online cemeteries listed here:
http://nzgenealogy.rootschat.net/cemetery.html
1926 Wises NZ Post Office Directory:
Surrey St, Grey Lynn; Right side from Great North Road
11, Lyons Mrs Anastasia
Regards, Bronwen
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Dear Bronwen, Hi there. Just had a look at the cemetery link for which I thank you, then thought 'crikey' it will take a while to go through.
Thanks for Wise's Directory entry. Can you dig up any records for Anastatia FLEMING? At present I have no parents for her.
You will see from my original posting that I filled in quite a few blanks that I had initially. I could have kicked myself because I forgot (groan) to check if there were any records on the IGI. (There were...)
Have a great day.
Alison QLD Australia.
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Ok guys, I've since found SIX more children born to John Newman LYONS and Anastatia FLEMING (also known as Anastasia FLEMING). My mother-in-law found a little piece of paper with faint pencilled notations written by her husband in the '70s.
I'll just post it all again from the beginning:-
It is believed that John Newman LYONS was the brother of Michael Henry LYONS (father of former 10th Prime Minister of Australia, Rt Hon. Joseph Aloysius LYONS who was born 15 Sep 1879 Stanley, Tasmania, Australia to Irish immigrants: Michael Henry LYONS and Ellen CARROLL.)
John Newman LYONS born abt 1850 possibly Ireland, died before 1925 (buried Lake Cemetery, West Point, Devonport, New Zealand). He first married at Tuimata, Auckland NZ on 3 Oct 1869/1871 to Anastatia FLEMING born abt 1850 unknown location (died bef 1918 in New Zealand) and they had eight children. Married 1918 (2) Isabella Catherine MEYRICK born 26 Aug 1873 Christchurch, New Zealand, died 1968 New Zealand.
Eight children of John Newman LYONS and Anastatia FLEMING:-
1.Ellena LYONS born 1871 Pukekohe East, New Zealand, died 7 Apr 1935 at Matariki Private Hospital, Te Awamutu, New Zealand. Religion: Roman Catholic. Buried 8 Apr 1935 Lot 227, Te Awamutu Cemetery, New Zealand. Married 1896 at Napier, New Zealand to John OLIVER born 1857 unknown, died 22 Aug 1943 Auckland, New Zealand, buried 24 Aug 1943 Te Awamutu Cemetery, New Zealand. No other details known.
2.Mary LYONS born abt 1873 New Zealand, supposedly married groom surname ORR. No other details known.
3.Elizabeth Julia LYONS born abt 1875 New Zealand, married 1912 NZ to Frank CHILLINGWORTH and the couple had three children, two girls and a boy.
4.Margaret LYONS born abt 1877 New Zealand, married 1905 NZ to Albert Victor DYE born 4 May 1879 Auckland NZ.
5.William LYONS born 12 Jul 1880 Waikumete, New Zealand, died 1964 Auckland NZ. Source: Family Notes.
6.John Newman LYONS (Junior) born 3 Mar 1883 New Zealand, died 28 Feb 1968 Auckland, New Zealand. Source: Family Notes.
7.Annie LYONS born abt 1885 New Zealand, died Apr 1945 Hamilton NZ. Married 1915 NZ to William Richard DIMMOCK.
8.James Thomas LYONS born 1887 New Zealand, died 17 Mar 1976 Auckland, New Zealand (source IGI http://www.familysearch.org/). Occupation: Master Painter. He married 4 Feb 1925 St Benedicts Church, Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand (source IGI) to Florence Genevieve CULLETON born 10 Sep 1894 Helensville, Auckland, New Zealand (source IGI), died 28 Aug 977 New Zealand (IGI). Florence was the daughter of Peter CULLETON and Annie Elizabeth MARRIOTT.
Five children of James Thomas LYONS and Florence Genevieve CULLETON:-
i) Dennis John LYONS born 30 Jan 1926 Grey Lynn, Auckland, New Zealand, died aged 4 years from a fall (?) 15 Feb 1930 New Zealand. Source IGI.
ii) LIVING male LYONS
iii) LIVING male LYONS
iv) LIVING female LYONS
v) Barry James Joseph LYONS (my father-in-law) born 19 May 1934 Auckland, New Zealand. Married 1961 NZ to LIVING HUGHES. Emigrated to Australia 1969. Died 31 Mar 2003 QLD.
Hoping someone out there can assist?
Kind regards,
Alison QLD.
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DelBoy
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Hi Alison,
North Shore City ( Over the harbour bridge in Auckland, area's sort of near the Chelsea Factory direction if that helps you with a general kind of location )
Have got a Load of LYONS buried in their various cemteries, There is a John Lyons bruired here died 1906.
http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/cemetery/cemetery_search.asp
So does the Rodney district cemteries ( All buried Helensville)
http://www.rodney.govt.nz/cemetery/name_search.asp
Manuakau memorial Gardens have a few
http://www.manukaumemorialgardens.co.nz/search.htm
And Purewa is chocker full
http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp
Hillsborough and waikaraka have a few also.
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/cemeteries/cemetery.html
You might get lucky with some of these, eh
Try these following historical society someone may be able to help paint a picture of the area for you.
http://www.devonportmuseum.org.nz/
Cheers
Del
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Del, you're a G*E*M. Alison.
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