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jillruss
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Help with place name
« on: Monday 29 January 07 18:10 GMT (UK) »
 I'd be grateful if anyone can help me with a place name.

I've printed off an OPR for Marnoch and it states that Alexander Milne and Isabel Mackie were in 'Telepeg' or 'Telepass' - I think that's what it says, I'm probably way wide of the mark!   Huh  I'm pretty sure it begins with a 'T'!!

I can't find it on the map and wondered if anyone had local knowledge and might be able to enlighten me. If not, I'll try and scan the relevant bit and post it so someone might be able to make some sense of it.

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« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 January 07 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Jill,

Hopefully someone with local knowledge will recognise it but in the meantime, Genuki has a list of

placenames for Marnoch here http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Marnoch/locations.html

Nothing jumps out immediately but it's worth a look.

A scan would be a good idea  Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 January 07 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Elaine.

I hope I'm attaching a scan!!

* Marnoch.jpg (43.3 KB, 1000x223 - viewed 125 times.)
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 January 07 21:33 GMT (UK) »
It's very difficult isn't it? I enlarged it and stared at it for ages but I can only get T or F then ? L ? F?F?

The"L" looks the same as in Isobel and Milne.

The first "F" looks the same as it does for Reidford on the top line. The letter after F could be O or A. .

The letter after the O or A looks very much like the previous F.

Sorry that I can't help more..time for the experts I think  Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 January 07 22:18 GMT (UK) »
It's a tough one Jill.  You can find a map of Marnoch at www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk.  Click on Get-a-Map and enter Marnoch.
You can enlarge it in stages until you see the farms round about.
The only problem is that unless you have some idea of what the name could be it would be a pretty unprofitable exercise.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 January 07 22:40 GMT (UK) »
I've spent about half an hour going around an OS map on line. I think I might have found a poss at NJ 705 515 -

Tillyfar to the east of Forglen but not sure if it's in Marnoch parish - I'm getting map drunk!


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« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 January 07 23:03 GMT (UK) »
That's really good of you, Gadget.

I've been doing the same but no luck. I can't even find your Forglen on the OS map but it sounds like a possible.

I'll keep looking!

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 January 07 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Just to the east of Aberchirder. I'll see if I can get it up on multimap and put the link. OS don't allow that as far as I can see  Sad

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 January 07 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Here it is, I hope:

http://tinyurl.com/yuywyf

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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Jill

I think the place you are looking for is TILLYFASS (written on the OPR as Tolefass). You can locate Tillyfass to the west, and slightly north of Aberchirder - prob about 5 miles or there abouts - on a line between Aberchirder and the Barry Hill.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bill

I think the link to the map I gave above shows this.

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the help folks.

So, have I got this right? Tillyfar is to the east of Aberchirder. Thanks to Gadget's link, I found Tillyfar.

Tillyfass is to the west and slightly north? I can't find it!!  Roll Eyes

I've been pootling about with the map since I got in 40 mins ago, and I still can't locate the place!! And I think you're right, Bill. Looking at the OPR, it certainly looks as if it could very well be Tillyfass (what a lovely name!) if only I could find it!  Embarrassed Embarrassed

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John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jill

Can't find it on Multimap but here is Barry Hill:


http://www.rootschat.com/links/016o/

If you move right and down around that area, it should be there  Huh

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Here is the map link - http://www.nls.uk:8080/StyleServer/calcrgn?cat=Maps&item=/74400837.sid&style=maps.xsl&wid=700&hei=500&browser=win_ie&plugin=false#    It requires lots of zooming and moving around, but once you find Aberchirder place it to far right centre, and search roughly W by WNW to Barry Hill. It is actually there as North Tillyfass.

Hope this gets you there

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Bill - don't wish to sound ungrateful but I couldn't read anything on that map.

I've decided to accept that it's Tillyfass and that it's obviously in the right neck of the woods and give up trying to actually find it.

Thanks for all your help - and Gadget too.

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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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