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mills family Holybourne
« on: Monday 29 January 07 21:05 GMT (UK) »

 Can anyone kindly give me any  information of. Mills family
who possbly lived in Hollybourne Hampshire around 1820
            Thankyou     
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 January 07 21:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi Baz,

Welcome to RootsChat.

There seem to be three couples by the names Mills in Holybourne around this time:

Thomas & Eliza/Elizabeth
John & Harriet
Peter & Elizabeth

Which one are you interested in - or is it all of them?

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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 09:05 GMT (UK) »


  Hi Nell
                 I am trying to find a Henry Mills who was born in Holybourne around 1812
                     I cannot tell you which Mills family he was from was from. All I can say he was living
                           In Dunham on Trent (Notts) in 1851 age 40. So would presume that if any of the
                           people in your list, were his parents they would have to be in there 60s  in 1851

                             Sorry I cannot give you any further information. Many thanks for your help.

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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 13:36 GMT (UK) »

I can find two children by the name of Henry Mills baptised in Holybourne:

Henry Mills bapt 18 Mar 1804, parents William and Hannah
Henry Mills bapt 2 Sep 1821, parents Thomas & Elizabeth

Neither really fit.   Huh

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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 13:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi Nell
             Thanks for your reply. Will have to try to get more information re Henry's date of birth.
                  I do have one document that gives his birth as 1820. But the 1851 census gives his age as 40. More research is obviously required
               Once again many thanks for your help
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 March 07 21:58 GMT (UK) »

You asked about the Mills family of Holybourne and the baptism of Henry. I think that the family below may be the one you are looking for. You say that he was given as being aged 40 in the 1851 census - is it possible that a '40' has been misread as a '20'?  Yours Jane.

1812   4 May, Thomas Mills married Eliza Glover both of the Chapelry of Holybourne, by banns at St Lawrence’s church. Alton. Witnesses - Thomas Glover, Lucy Glover, (John Moore who attended most Alton marriages at the time).
At this period, no marriages took place in Holybourne. The couples had to come to Alton - which was the mother church.
1814   Thomas Mills, son of Thomas and Eliza of Holybourne, bap. at Holybourne.
1816   Peter Mills, son of Thomas and Eliza of Holybourne, bap. at Holybourne.
1819   George Mills, son of Thomas and Eliza of Holybourne, bap. at Holybourne.
1821   2 Sep., Henry Mills, son of Thomas and Eliza of Holybourne, bap. at Holybourne.
Thomas was described as a wheelwright in the baptism register.
1823   12 July, Thomas Mills, aged 34, buried in Holybourne.

1841   Census, Holybourne
Eliza Mills      50      y
George Mills      30   ag lab   y
George Warner   50   ag lab   y
Rachel Bud      20      y
Eliza seems to have been living on the eastern corner of London Road and Church Lane.

1851   Census, Holybourne
Eliza Mills   wdw   61   laundress   born   Illsfield [sic]
Edward Morgan ldger   43   butcher   “   Wallop
George had married and was living with his wife and 5 children 4 houses to the east of the White Hart, London Road.

1854   4 Aug., Martha Mills buried, aged 33. (George’s wife).
1860   4 Aug., Eliza Mills buried Holybourne. No age given.
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 15:43 GMT (UK) »

Hello Janeh
                  Thanks for your information. I have checked print out of the 1851 census for Dunham bridge Notts. At that time Henry Mills had a family of 7 children. the eldest was 13. His wife is listed as 39years old.So I think it he would have been considerably older than 20. Is it possible that there were more than one Mills family living in Holybourne  Hampshire at that time?
         Sorry I have not replied earlier but have been without computer for a while.

                              Baz
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 March 07 00:39 GMT (UK) »

Dear Baz - the only other Henry that it could be is the Henry baptised in Holybourne on 18 march 1804. He was the son of William and Hannah Mills.
William Mills of Froyle married Hannah Spencer of the Tithing of Neatham on 29 July 1793 at Froyle.
1793   8 Nov.   William, child of William and Hannah Mills, baptised at Froyle.
They then seem to move to Holybourne.
Possible son? 1798 8 April, Thomas Mills, infant, buried at Holybourne.
Holybourne baptisms:-
1798   28 July,   James, child of William and Hannah Mills
1798   28 July,    Jane, child of William and Hannah Mills
[these may have been twins or the parents could have been getting an older child baptised with a younger one]
1800   13 July      George, child of William and Hannah Mills
[1801   28 June, George Mills, infant, buried.]
1804   18 Mar      Henry, child of William and Hannah Mills
1806   27 July      Marye/Haryet, child of William and Hannah Mills
[1812   6 Mar      Hannah Mills, aged 6, buried. Was this this child, possibly given          her mother’s name in the register by mistake?]
1808   28 Nov   Thomas, child of William and Hannah Mills
1808   17 June   William Mills, aged 39, buried. Hence he was born c1769.
I can not find the family in the registers after this but they may appear in other sources such as the Overseers’ accounts. Yours Jane.
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 March 07 00:31 GMT (UK) »

Dear Baz - I went to the HRO today and found the following which may give some background if your Henry was the son of William and Hannah. Poor Hannah left with the children - and then they lost their mother. Yours Jane.
Holybourne Overseers’ Accounts 21M79/PO1
1799   16 March, paid for examining Wm Mills      3/-
Presumably William looked as if he might become a charge on the parish of Holybourne. They may have just arrived or something may have happened that suggested William might not always be able to work - although he did not claim relief until the December.
William Mills received relief on and off from December 1799
Apr.1801 to Feb.1802 Wm Mills receiving relief
From October 1804-   Wm Mills receiving relief
1807
March, Wm Mills’s rent paid               £2/12/-
12 Apr., Wm Mills                  12/-
no more payments until-
27 Sep., Wm Mills Ill one week            10/-
and same each week until-
27 Dec., Wm Mills 2 Weeks Ill            £1/-/-
1808
16 Jan., Wm Mills 3 Weeks Ill            £1/10/-
13 Feb., Wm Mills Expenses to the Hospital         £3/-/-
paid coach etc                     12/6
12 Mar., Wm Mills at the Hospital            £1/4/-
9 Apr., Wm Mills ill                  £2/-/-
paid each month until-
1808   4 June, William Mills               £2/0/0
16 June   paid Hannah Mills            7/-
Paid for Wine for Wm Mills when ill            14/-
20 June, paid Hannah Forder and Sarah Mills for
Laying forth Wm Mills               5/-
21 June, paid Sarah Mills for Attending Wm Mills      4/-
2 July   paid Hannah Mills                £1/10/-
12 July, paid John Willes for Ringing the Bell and Diging
the Grave for Wm Mills               2/6
Hannah Mills was paid between £1/10/- and £2/4/0 a week as well as her rent of £2/12/0 being paid each year.

1809   2 July, mention of Hannah having 4 children
1810   8 Apr., paid James Woolveridge Days Work
for Moving Hannah Mills               2/0
1810   17 Apr., paid one pair shoes Hanah Mills boy   5/6
8 Feb., Hanna Mills                  £2/4/0
Paid Till Hore? to get sope & Candels & Provisions &c    5/6    [added Millses]
1812   8 March, Millses Children            13/6
paid the Clark for Ringing Bell and Diging Grave H Mills   2/6
10 Mar., Milles Boye                  3/0
17 Mar., Mills Boy                  4/0
[and so each week]
Hana Mills Rent                  £2/12/0
5 Apr., Leney a Bill for Shoes Hannah Mills Chid.      £2/6/6
8 Apr., Mrs Durman one Months Pay for Millses Child
up to that date                     16/0
29 May, Paid James Smee looking after Hanah Mills
Child 8 weeks up to May 30th at 4/- per week      £1/12/0
and so on each month with one child with Mrs Durman and the other with James Smee.
James Smee, a labourer, had married Lucy Spencer in 1801 in Froyle so was probably related by marriage to the Mills family.
1816   23 June, Paid James Smee for the keep of Hannah Mills Child from April 14th to June 2nd - 27 weeks at 4/- per week
Paid James Smee for the keep of Hannah Mills Child 4 weeks to June 30th at 2/6 per week
Paid James Smee for Cloaths for Hannah Mills Child            £1/0/0
1816   11 Aug., Herret Mills had 2 yards Calico
1816   18 Aug., Paid Mrs Durham for 12 weeks keep of Herrett Mills from May 26 to August 18th at 4/0 per week
Relieved Mary Mills      5/6
1816   10 Nov., Paid James Smee for the keep of Hannah Mills Child from June 30th to Nov.17th - 20 weeks at 3/6 per week
Paid Mrs Durham for 12 weeks keep of Herrett Mills from August 18th to Nov.10th at 3/6 per week [not mentioned again]
1816    8 Dec., John Knight for Hannah Mills Boy at 3/6 per week for 2 weeks and 4s a week for 2 weeks
1817   5 Jan. John Knight for Hannah Mills Child at 4s per week
same each month, he also had John Hooker’s child at 4/6 a week
Sep. John Knight for Millses Boy at 4s
1818    March,
John Knight for keeping Mills’s Boy at 4s
No mention of the name of Mills’s Boy. The older children had probably
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 March 07 11:37 GMT (UK) »

Hello Janeh
                     Thank you very much for your work on the Mills family.
   I feel that, my Henry was the son Of Willam and Hannah as Henry named his children with the same names that William and Hannah had used.  The details you supply give a very good insight of the social  conditions of that era.
           
                   Baz
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 March 07 23:12 GMT (UK) »

You are welcome. Yours Jane.
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Re: mills family Holybourne
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 March 07 14:19 GMT (UK) »

Hello again Jane
                               Would you have any information on.
         Charles Mills son of William and Hannah Mills?
         I also have Charles Mills as son of William luff Mills and Ann.I wonder if you have any documentation that could clear this anomaly
                              Thanks
                                           Baz
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