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bbriann
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Stables family in lancaster area please.
« on: Thursday 11 November 04 05:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,   I was recently given some info, on these pages, about William Stables  b. 1792,   and living in Lancaster with wife Agnes.
We believe that he was born somewhere else,   in the general area , maybe.
He was noted as having a small amount of land.    Are there any records for this,  and how can we check his birthplace?Huh I would appreciate any assistance on this.   Thanks, B.
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Wilcock  ( Wilcox)  in Chorley, Rivington ,   and a separate line in Lancaster, Wray, Melling
Stables Lancashire and Furness,      Southworth ,  Finch in  Wigan and Bolton areas,
Bradley  ,              Sharrock ,    
Bradley in Mass.  U.S.A.
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 November 04 14:26 GMT (UK) »
I am also researching the Stables name. My branch moved about a lot.

I have Robert Stables born 1820 Bolton married Matilda Stackhouse who was born in Pendleton, in Eccles, Manchester in 1841 and possibly 10 to 15 years later koved to Wolverhampton where I found them in 1881.

His occupation when he married was Mechanic and in 1881 was Locomotive Engine Fitter.

Roberts father was John Stables which unfortunately nearly everyone who was called Stables had a member called John.

Going by the names Robert & Matilda called their children it maybe they came from the Ulverston area. One family I found who maybe the right one descended from James Stables and Betty Moor married 1815.

Incidently I have printed out all the Lancashire Stables from the 1881 census.

Jean
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 November 04 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Jean.. thanks for the response.   I'll get my brain around this after I get some sleep,  but thanks for that.    it's funny, I suppose,  but I am about 99% convinced that I should be  ( or soon will be) looking for this mob across the water/ sands in Ulverstone.  It seems more logical as time goes by.    I will be back to you with any thing that may interest you. You mentioned a print out,  is there any chance of me getting that from you?    It could be handy.    thanks   Brian.
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Wilcock  ( Wilcox)  in Chorley, Rivington ,   and a separate line in Lancaster, Wray, Melling
Stables Lancashire and Furness,      Southworth ,  Finch in  Wigan and Bolton areas,
Bradley  ,              Sharrock ,    
Bradley in Mass.  U.S.A.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 November 04 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Brian

Think majority of Stables came from Cumbria with the rest coming from Yorkshire/Durham areas.

Slight problem with the print out. It covers 48 pages. I copied all the Lancashire households from the 1881 census. Haven't put them onto a database yet. Currently have them in transparent sheets in a file.

There are 10 families with a William as head but only 2 who have an Agnes and they are children.

Do you have any other names apart from William's and Agne's? Might help because in the 19th C people seemed to name children after family members, or at least my Paternal line of McGurn's did, Was able to put together 2 generations like this. (Copies of certificates proved right.)

Cheers

Jean

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 November 04 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Jean,    excuse me please,  I feel like a bit of a goose.   I didn't realise the census had that much info on it.    The reason that I didn't realise is that I have been searching through the films of the parish records, looking through Bolton le sands, Cockerham and Lancaster,  and the stables family group is hardly mentioned.  so, from my point of view, they dropped into a black hole.   There are some interesting leads across the bay, but I have to get there yet.
This is a brief rundown on the info I have.
My mother was Hilda Stables, born Bolton,  two siblings, Dorothy and Bill........   Their father was Samuel Rueben Stables b. 1885 , siblings are William Henry,    Mary Alice, Dorothy  and Thomas North Stables.
His father is  William stables b.  1846 Ellel,  he was an iron moulder,   he married Catherine North in 1867, in Bolton.        His father, Thomas Stables, b 1822, Cockerham, married Dorothy nelson,    and his father is the Williamb 1792 and Agnes, his wife.    And that is where it ends.     Is this Info any use to you?       I have some other details, but not much.  Thanks again   Brian
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Wilcock  ( Wilcox)  in Chorley, Rivington ,   and a separate line in Lancaster, Wray, Melling
Stables Lancashire and Furness,      Southworth ,  Finch in  Wigan and Bolton areas,
Bradley  ,              Sharrock ,    
Bradley in Mass.  U.S.A.
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Re: Stables family in lancaster area please.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian

Thanks for the info. Give me a few days and I will go through the paperwork I have.  I do find it very interesting that a number of your Stables folk were born in Bolton. Can't herlp but think there may be a connection somewhere. My Robert was born in Bolton and going through both the 1881 and 1871 census lists there doesn't seem to be many Stables born in Bolton.

I Found Robert and Matilda living in Wolverhaptom with a number of children but cannot find Margaret Stables, their daughter and my g.grandmother. She didn't get married until 1879 and is down on the marriage certificate as a spinster so think either she was out of the country (unlikely) didn't get put down on the census (possible) or is listed under another name.

One surname site has her parents down as Robert Stubbs and Matilda Stackhouse which if you don't look properly at the Stables name can be taken for Stubbs.

Jean   
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 November 04 05:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian

Been looking through my bits and pieces I have on my Stables and when I re-read your message it suddenly struck me.

You say you have been searching the films of the parish records of Bolton le sands. Well I do believe you have been looking through the wrong Bolton films. It should be Bolton Le Moors

I made this same mistake when I first started out. Although I could find Bolton Le Sands I couldn't find Bolton Le Moors anywhere on any maps. I then discovered that it was the original name of the present day Bolton.

It's one of those weird things that cropped up many years ago when there were two villages of the same names. Le Sand probably because they were near the coast and Le Moors because it was on the edge of the moors.

( There is a similar village naming confusion in Sussex. We have West Grinstead south of Horsham which is in West Sussex and there is  East Grinstead some 30-40 miles away which is in East Sussex)

I have also found from the 1871 census one William Stables wife Catherine, children Mary Alice age 11 months and John Nelson age 3 which seem to tie in with some of your info apart from John Nelson. Both the children were born in Sharples so maybe this parish may be worth checking out.

Hope this helps a bit. Meanwhile I will keep looking and get back when I find out more.

Jean
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