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rutti tutti
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Hi there, i think this may be for members only - see below from the benefits of the gssa. ( now extended to non members at a higher price than members but still incredible value) Ruth 19.06.07 update This is the best service I think that we have had in South Africa - it does work but it does take time - at least a month. So please be patient - difficult I know! Getting a copy of a death notice is like unlocking a treasure trove. I recently have had a breakthrough in my own family brickwall through one death notice Please note that at present we have a massive public service strike on that is causing problems for all - especially me as a teacher!!!!)
Here is the direct link to ordering: http://www.eggsa.org/sales/eshop_e_dc_docs.htm
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There is a little box which asks if you are a member and what currency you would like to pay in - so dont know if this all links up or not!!! Ruth
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I will give you the actual document numbers and info tomorrow as it is late and I am going to bed. Thanks for the info. Sharon
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This is great!!! Thanks for that EmPea. Do you know if they do Transvaal papers too...it's on the NAAIRS site. BTW some time ago someone put up an address that had pics of Transvaal documents online...does anyone have the add please as I lost it and it was really interesting. Sylvia
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Main names: Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey. Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp. Warwickshire and London - Garfield. Ireland - Marah/Meara. Lancashire - Wilson other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Well I've taken the plunge and been and gone and done it Ordered from the eggsa.org site. Keeping fingers crossed  Anyone know how long they take? Sylvia
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Main names: Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey. Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp. Warwickshire and London - Garfield. Ireland - Marah/Meara. Lancashire - Wilson other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sylvia
Same website - http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php for some documents.
Depending on the Archive, it will take anything from two weeks to 2 months. I have found that the Free State Archive takes a long time. The Pretoria (Transvaal) & Cape Town Archive should be about 2 weeks.
Regards Moira
This is great!!! Thanks for that EmPea. Do you know if they do Transvaal papers too...it's on the NAAIRS site. BTW some time ago someone put up an address that had pics of Transvaal documents online...does anyone have the add please as I lost it  and it was really interesting. Sylvia
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South Africa - Wessels/Vorster South Africa - Behr/Toerien South Africa - Pnematicatos/Chimato Cornwall, England & South Africa - Hicks/Breach Yorkshire & Durham, England & South Africa - Kenney/Hucks
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Thanks Moira, I never thought to look around on the site while I was there...too keen to get my order off 
I'm hoping these Estate papers will answer some questions with my lot...I'm particularly interested in the widow. And yes I filled in all the notes bit. 
cheers Sylvia
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Main names: Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey. Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp. Warwickshire and London - Garfield. Ireland - Marah/Meara. Lancashire - Wilson other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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To EmPea & rutti tutti
I just ordered a death notice on line from the eggsa.org site and received a very polite email asking me to join the society for $21 per year or pay a modest increase in the charges for a non-member. As I am only following up on a rumour that my g-grandfather's cousin emigrated to SA and to my knowledge have no other rellies there I've opted for the non-member route. Thanks for the tip about the site - wouldn't have known where to begin otherwise 
Heather
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCARRINGTON, ROBERTS, WILLIAMS, FOULKES, WYNN, BLUNT, JONES Denbighshire. DAVIES, OWEN, JONES, WILLIAMS, THOMAS, EVANS, MORGAN, SOLOMAN, GRIFFITHS Caernarfonshire & Anglesey THATCHER, HILLIER, PARISH Surrey APPLETON, MALTHOUSE, GLOVER Hertfordshire MCDONALD & SOUPER Aberdeen c1800
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Hi Heather When did you order your death cert? Oh duh! just noticed you said today I ordered my estate papers on 23rd March and have had no emails from them at all Do you know how much (per page)they will be charging you? Sylvia
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Main names: Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey. Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp. Warwickshire and London - Garfield. Ireland - Marah/Meara. Lancashire - Wilson other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sylvia
This is a copy of the email I received - maybe a new policy since you ordered??
"You may already have heard from Annelie in this regard, but archive photos are at present only available to members of the Genealogical Society of SA (http://eggsa.org) at the prices advertised on the website. To non-members the prices are US $2 for the first photo in a document and US $1 for subsequent photos in the same document, plus the $2 handling fee per order (compared to $1, $0.50 and $1 respectively)
Membership to the organisation is only US $ 21 per year, so if you plan on ordering a few photos, it is certainly well worth your while to join us (in addition you'll also have access to a number of genealogical resources, quarterly journals and newsletters). To join, just follow the JOIN link on our main page
Should you not wish to join the society but to continue with the order at the non-member prices, please let Annelie know (her email address appears above)
Regards Colin"
Since I'm in Canada and unlikely to need more than one document, I think it is still excellent value compared with other countries like Wales for example where you have to email a request - wait 6 weeks for them to send you another email with the order form, then send a cheque etc. etc. The last two from National Library of Wales cost Five pounds each for three photocopies and a fancy mailer. I would much rather have had the option of ordering on line and having them email etc. but not to be, for the moment anyway. They don't even charge you until they mail the photo which is fair. My only concern is someone else on RC said that mail service is not necessarily reliable from SA.
Heather
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCARRINGTON, ROBERTS, WILLIAMS, FOULKES, WYNN, BLUNT, JONES Denbighshire. DAVIES, OWEN, JONES, WILLIAMS, THOMAS, EVANS, MORGAN, SOLOMAN, GRIFFITHS Caernarfonshire & Anglesey THATCHER, HILLIER, PARISH Surrey APPLETON, MALTHOUSE, GLOVER Hertfordshire MCDONALD & SOUPER Aberdeen c1800
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Hmmm maybe they have changed their policy. This is all I've had from them so far, just an invoice.
Qty Item Name Description Price 1 Archive Photograph (to be paid when ready) Repository: TAB Reference: MHG 9711/68 Description: MCINTYRE, CHARLES. ESTATE FILE Note: Please photograph the Death Notice and all of the following, if available: Will, Inventory List, Liquidation and Distribution Accounts, Statement made by beneficiary with receipt of inheritance, Marriage Certificates and Death Certificate.
Aus$ 0.00 Subtotal 1 Item : Aus$ 0.00 Total Order Amount : Aus$ 0.00 (They will charge me in Aust $ as I am in NZ)
Like you I don't mind having to pay extra as this is probably a one off for me too, being unable to find my Great Uncle's estate papers. Does anyone know if there is a date after which docs will not be put on the NAAIRS site...I'm looking for possibly 1960's
Sylvia
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Main names: Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey. Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp. Warwickshire and London - Garfield. Ireland - Marah/Meara. Lancashire - Wilson other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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