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Topic: HARVEY - Help please (Read 384 times)
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Dizzliz
Welcome to RootsChat 
These are the entries for the children of Charles Harvey and Margaret BROWN showing on IGI, actual extracts from the OPRs:
1. JAMES HERVEY Birth: 29 FEB 1840/ Christening: 22 MAR 1840 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
2. CHARLES HARVEY Birth: 16 MAY 1841 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
3. MARGARET HARVEY Birth: 13 MAR 1843 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
4. WILLIAM D. HARVEY Birth: 18 JUL 1845 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
5. PETER HARVEY Birth: 17 JUL 1849 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
6. ALEXR. L. HARVEY Birth: 04 APR 1852 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
And the parents' marriage also showing as an actual extract on IGI:
CHARLES HARVEY Marriages: Spouse: MARGARET BROWN
Marriage: 28 MAY 1839 Gamrie, Banff, Scotland
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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The family in 1861:
Charles Harvey 48, hair Daisser (dresser?), b. Gartly, Aberdeenshire
Margaret Harvey 46, b. Keith, Banffshire
Margaret Harvey 17, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Peter Harvey 11, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Alexander Harvey 8, b. McKeff, Banffshire
Address: 7 Soutar St, MacDuff, Banff
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Can't easily see James in 1861? Do you approx dates for when he arrived in NZ, have you managed to find any details of his crossing? Did he marry in NZ and have children there?
The closest I can see is possibly a mistrasciption of his surname, but I am looking at an index rather than the original image:
James HAWAY, 21, lodger, druggist, b. MacDuff, Banffshire
Address: 7 8 Black's Buildings, St Nicholas, Aberdeen
A possible entry for brother Charles lodging in a Sclater houshold in Edinburgh:
George Harvey, 19, lodger, Clerk Newspaper Office, b. MacDuff, Banffshire
Address: 7 Richmond Pl, Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Midlothian
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Can't see a marriage for James and Elizabeth Miller in Scotland, so they must have married in NZ (?).
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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harveyofgartly
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I am a direct descendant of James Harvey. He is buried in the village cemetery at Kirknewton, now in the County of West Lothian, Scotland. Until 1975 Kirknewton was in the County of Midlothian. He died aged 73 on 19th December 1913 in Kirknewton. He left a widow, Agnes Gibb. His parents were Charles Harvey and Margaret Harvey nee Brown. His occupation had been at the time of death a retired Oilwork Labourer. The local area was the largest world producer of oil (ie mineral oil extracted from the ground, which accounts for the orange shale bings or slags surrounding this area). The grave has a headstone marking his death and that of his widow, who died on 1st June 1918 in Kirknewton. In the next grave is buried his son, William.
Charles Harvey and Margaret Brown had children as follows:
James born 22 Mar 1840
Charles born 16 May 1841
Margaret born 13 Mar 1843
William D. born 18 Jul 1845
Peter born 17 Jul 1848
Alexander Leask born 4 Apl 1852
All were born in Macduff, a town 2 miles east of Banff in Aberdeenshire. Macduff is a fishing port situated on Gamrie Bay and was known as the parish of Gamrie.
Sometime around the 1850s they moved to Stirling, ie St Ninians. A son, Charles, was involved in the printing business. There Margaret Brown died aged 60 on 27 Aug 1875; her widower Charles died aged 78 in nearby Old Sauchie on 11 Dec 1890 (St Ninians Parish, Parish No. 488/1, Entry 73).
The Marriage Entry for the Newington District of Edinburgh (Parish No 685/5, Entry 159) shows that 31 year old James Harvey, a Clerk residing in the Pleasance, Edinburgh, married Agnes Gibb on 23rd May 1871. Prior to their marriage they had a son, James, on 6th June 1870. (Newington 685/5 Entry 708). The occupation of father James is recorded as Druggist's Assistant. They later had a number of other children, all born locally, and from which I am descended in the male line. Just prior to the 1891 census the family moved to Kirknewton. The forefathers of his wife, Agnes Gibb, all came from West Lothian since the 1600s. She grew up in East Calder, 2 miles away from Kirknewton.
The children of James Harvey and Agnes Gibb are:-
James b. 6 Jun 1870
Mary b.1872
Margaret b. 1874
Agnes b. 1876
Charles b. 1878
William b. 1881
Archibald b. 1883
All were born in the Edinburgh area. I have no record of a John having been born to them.
AH
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harveyofgartly
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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The Old Parish Record for Gamrie ie Macduff (Parish No 155/3) for 1839 states:
"May 28. Charles Harvey in this Parish and Margaret Brown Parish of St Clements Aberdeen were married 28th May."
The Old Parish Record for the town of Falkirk (Parish No 479) for June 1838 states:
"James Harvey and Margaret Brown both of this parish married 22 Current."
Have you got the correct "James Harvey and Margaret Brown"?
AH
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