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Annie CRICK
« on: Friday 09 February 07 12:28 GMT (UK) »

Hello everyone,
Trying to locate Annie Crick.  I have a marriage certificate for the registry office in Woodbridge on 6th Jane 1904 between Annie Crick and John Bugg.  Annie is listed as living in Moreton Street, Vauxhall Bridge Road, London, no occupation, aged 29.  Father Robert Crick, Warrener.

Now the problem begins.  I can't find her in any previous census or a definite birth registration.

I have gone through the 1901 census for all Robert Crick's and found only one born 1848 Bury St. Edmunds who was a warrener.  Also I think this is the right Robert Crick because his grandson Jack Bugg born 1899 was living with him which seems to much of a coincidence with names. (Although the marriage certificate is 5 years later)

Going back through the 1881 and 1891 census I have found Robert Crick, his wife Betsey and the following children:-
Althea Mary b1870 Lakenheath
Harry b1871 Lakenheath
Robert b1872 Lakenheath
Charles b1876 Mildenhall
Emma b 1878 Mildenhall
Bertha b1879 Mildenhall
Walter b1882 Mildenhall
Joseph b1885 Barton Mills
Lavinia b1887 Barton Mills

But no Annie.  By her marriage certificate I would have thought she was born approx 1874 but I can't find her on FreeBMD or Ancestry.  There is a Annie Sophia born approx 1875 but she is with her parents in 1881.
I have also checked Ann Maria b1873 but she living with her grandparents in 1881 who was not Roberts father.  There is a Anna b1873 but I think she was William and Mary Ann's daughter.

Besides ordering a birth certificate for Jack Bugg, any suggestions as to where Annie was?
Lynda
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:01 GMT (UK) »

You often find that girls who went away to work 'in service' returned home to marry if they could afford it.  They would also send any children home to Granny so that they could continue to work.
I wonder if you would find her in 1891 as a servant in a household in London ?
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:03 GMT (UK) »

Hello,
Sorry when I said I couldn't find her in any census, I also meant in any area in England as well.  Sorry should have made that a bit clearer.  I have put this query is the Suffolk area because they got married in Suffolk and her father comes from Suffolk (hopefully).
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:05 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if Althea became Annie ?    Huh

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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:09 GMT (UK) »

I have wondered that because she is a servant in 1891 in Stoke Newington, London and I can't find her in 1901 nor a marriage or death entry, but her birth entry is 1870 which would make her 34ish in 1904 and would she be that far out on her age?  Also how would I prove or disprove?
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:21 GMT (UK) »

If you think that Jack BUGG  the grandson is Annie's son, perhaps you should be looking for her as Annie BUGG in 1901. Annie may have been living as John's wife Have you found John in the earlier census? 

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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:21 GMT (UK) »

Not unknown for Brides to give a slightly altered age (usually going down however, my Granny upped hers by a couple of years, as did Grandad as he was home on leave from French Airfields and shouldn't have been in the Royal Naval Flying Corps at all - probably should have been in school)  Roll Eyes

I think it is common for 'gells in service' to be called by a name that 'suits that position' so you got a lot of name changing and I would imagine Althea would have been changed to Annie (but who really knows).  
I found three sisters from Ipswich, all in service, two in Felixstowe and the other in London all were all called 'Kate' by the families they worked for !

One thing I could never quite work out was why Great Aunt Dora had her name changed to Nora by the Lady to whom she was a lifelong companion.

Good luck with your search, Annie isn't making things easy for you is she   Huh

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Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale in MDX/LND
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham LND - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:25 GMT (UK) »

What was John's occupation on the marriage certificate?

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MONK Odiham, Hampshire.
RAM(M)EL(L), Kent.
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:35 GMT (UK) »

hi Jebber,
Hadn't thought that they might be living as man and wife.  Will check that one out. 
I haven't found John in 1901 yet either.  On the marriage certificate it states occupation Groom(dom serv).  His address is not very clear but looks like Lou_ham Park, Pettistree Huh  Father John - coachman.
John was born approx 1873 Lawshall - father John, mother Susan.
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:50 GMT (UK) »

Have found  John Bugg in 1891 living in Lawshall with his parents John and Susan. Occupation stableboy.
Interesting that him and Annie are both missing in 1901 tho  Roll Eyes
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:51 GMT (UK) »

Loudham Hall is in Pettistree  Smiley

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Bridges in Derby
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Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale in MDX/LND
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham LND - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:52 GMT (UK) »

I had not looked for him in 1891, I am still trying to find them in 1901, will keep looking for the next ten minutes, then I have to log off for a while.

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KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset.
MONK Odiham, Hampshire.
RAM(M)EL(L), Kent.
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:56 GMT (UK) »

Thanks SM
Will have a look through all the census' for that area and see if he was employed there in 1901.
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 February 07 13:56 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Jebber,
Really appreciate all the help and suggestions.
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Re: Annie Crick
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 February 07 14:02 GMT (UK) »

Just been checking out Loudham Hall in
Suffolk Houses
A Study of Domestic Architecture
by
Eric Sandon F.R.I.B.A.
photographs and some wonderful
illustrations by the late John Western

Pub by the Antiques Collectors Club, Woodbridge 1977

It has recently been re-printed and you may be able to order a copy from your local Library.

there are pages and lovely photographs of Loudham Hall. it is one of those large houses that looks as though it could be a lovely family home (rather than a Museum).

Can't help with a family name for the Hall at the time you are searching, have only 1844, 1855 and 1937 directories (White's and Kelly's).

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Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk in Suffolk
Bridges in Derby
Fulker in Berkshire then hammersmith/Barnes LND
Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Wilson, Sale in MDX/LND
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham LND - arrived Boston USA 1889 - what happened next?
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