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"Smith's permit"
« on: Friday 09 February 07 20:37 GMT (UK) »

On some passenger records from the early 1920s, I have found this addendum handwritten beside some families' names on the typewritten manifest.  Some say "Smith permit".

Does anyone know what this means?
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 06:29 GMT (UK) »

Although I have no idea what a "Smith's Permit" is, you might try asking the people from the Pier 21 site at
http://www.pier21.ca/

or possibly the National Archives at
www.collectionscanada.ca/

Is it possible for you to attach the portion that shows this to this posting? (Just in case you have read it wrong.)

Janice
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 21:35 GMT (UK) »

That's a very good idea, to ask Pier 21.  I have even been there, but didn't think of that.
Unfortunately there can be no doubt that it says "Smith", as it is repeated many times, and is very clear.
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ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot, Westminster Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 March 07 04:50 GMT (UK) »

When you find out, could you post on the board so that others will understand?

Good Luck!  Smiley

Janice
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 March 07 07:12 GMT (UK) »

Yes, of course.
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BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 March 07 02:45 GMT (UK) »

Just a guess but it may have something to do with drilling for types of ore?  If a person was working for a drilling company, they may have immigrated with a permit to do so.

The other option could be that they worked in the profession of a "Smith" and was a black smith / gold smith etc.  I wouldn't think that they would need a permit for that but I may be wrong?

Nancy

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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 March 07 05:50 GMT (UK) »

Good guesses, but I think that's not it.  There are a lot of people with this notation, and they're all going to different places in Canada and probably doing different things.  My particular person was going to Peterborough to work for CGE in some capacity or other, according to the same document.

My suspicion is that it was some sort of government-sponsored immigration scheme.  Perhaps somebody named Smith put forward a bill in parliament?
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ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot, Westminster Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 March 07 04:12 GMT (UK) »

If you haven't yet found the answer about "Smiths Permit", possibly this site could help.

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Manifests/

It's worth a try.  Undecided

Janice
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Re: "Smith's permit"
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 07 17:52 GMT (UK) »

interesting, but I don't see anything there.
thanks.
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ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot, Westminster Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea & NL
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER - lightermen
MAXWELL - lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot.borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Co.Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol, London
WW1 internments
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