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Topic: Help please - for return from Oz 1843 (Read 1687 times)
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DevonJewel
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We believe Richard & Priscilla Bat(t)ley returned from Australia sometime during 1843 and whilst still at sea Henry Frederick Moffatt was born. Can you one help with details please
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PrueM
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Hi DevonJewel 
Do you have any other information about the family?
When did they arrive in Australia, in which colony were they (NSW, Victoria, etc), occupations, ages, all that sort of thing.
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Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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bekahsgran
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Hi
The son Henry is on the 1851 with his grandmother in Tavistock Road, St Pauls Covent Garden, He's listed as 7 and born at sea.
But I can't find the parents.
Would you like the details of the household?
Anne
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DevonJewel
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Prue M - thanks for replying
Richard went out on the Orleana and also on that ship's list is a Priscilla Moffatt presumably they married over there and then returned 3 years later with Henry - I'm surprised that they didn't call their first son Richard though unless there was a son that died in Oz?
Anne, yes please any information gratefully received.
DJ
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DevonJewel
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Prue,
I forgot to mention Richard was born 1814 at Burnham on Crouch - very little info apart from that I'm afraid.
DJ
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bekahsgran
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Hi DJ
There's not much information the reference is
HO107 Piece 1511 Folio 80 Page 4
Tavistock Road, St Pauls Covent Garden, Westminster, Lindon
Sarah White Head Widower Lodginghouse Keeper b Burnham, Essex
HENRY BATTLEY Grandson 7 b On the Sea
The rest of the household is lodgers, but they are upmarket lodgers an actress 2 'Gentlemen' and a 'Lady'
Still can't find the parents though. Any ages for Richard and Priscilla? Places of birth etc?
Anne
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bekahsgran
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Hi
Found him I think. Just getting details
Anne
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bekahsgran
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Hi
Can't make this out the entry gives
Richard Battley Marr 36 Cabinet Master b Burnham Essex
The wife is Harriet ALLEN Marr 42 b Essex
then a list of children all ditto'd Allen ages from 10 downwards.
Methinks could it be a second wife with kids of her own.
Just off to check. Will be back
Anne
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Just in case this helps anyone trying to track them in Australia, the ORLEANA arrived in South Australia from England in 1840. If anyone has SA BDMs and could look for a marriage and any children, that would be really helpful.
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Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Thanks Prue,
Yes, I'd certainly appreciate finding if they married out there and whether there were other siblings.
DJ
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Anne,
Now I thought Richard & Priscilla had at least six children Henry 1843 to Crissy in 1856. Richard I think is then listed as a publican and in the 1971 census Priscilla is listed as a widow. Could it be Richard's father you have?
I've not been able to get any information on his parents.
I'm so excited and grateful.
DJ
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bekahsgran
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Hi
Found them on 1861 as folows
Rg9 Piece 48 Folio 19 Page 31
21 Bowling Street, St Johns Westminster
BATTLEY
Richard Head Marr 46 Cabinet Maker b Burnham Essex
Priscilla Wife Marr 38 b Westminster
Henry Fredk Son 17 Coachsmith b At Sea B.S.
Priscilla Daur 11 b Westminster
Alfred Son 7 b Westminster
Rosina Daur 4 b Westminster
Chrissy Daur 4 b Westminster.
They gotta be on the 1851, I WILL find them
Anne
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this is how the entry came up with I put in Battley arrival into south australia
BATTLEY Richard Henry arrived 1840-06-10 on Orleana from London 1840-02-29 [2,7,23(3),26]
MORGAN David (prev arr 1837 Lady Emma), Christian / Christina MOFFATT / MOFFETT nee POPLE, Priscilla, Selina, Amelia, dau (1st husband) arrived 1840-06-10 on Orleana from London 1840-02-29 [2,4,6(Observer 1892),7(RH BATTLEY, Jas S WATSON, WW LITTLETON, WH HAYES),10,20,23(10),26,IGI]
now I cannot find any B D M's for these two
hope this may be of some help
regards jenn
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DevonJewel
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Thanks Jen, Yes that's all I've got. I was hoping for a Marriage Cert whilst they were out there and possibly even a child that died (as I thought they would have kept the name Richard going for first son).
Any news of when or name of ship they returned to England on - presumably they came straight back to England?
DJ
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Hi DJ
Firstly, welcome to rootschat.
Have you checked the Microfiche for British Births, Deaths & marriages abroad. Is "Moffatt" in Henry names of any significance.
I note there was a Barque called "Moffatt" which arrived in Sydney on 24 December 1842, could they have been on the return journey.
As to the 1851 Census entry for Richard, it's as follows
HO107/1479 Folio 224 pages 39 & 40
St John Evanglist, Westminster - no actual address given against entry
Richard Battley Married 36 Burnham Essex Cabinet Maker (Journeyman)
Amelia Battley Wife 29 Westminster St John Middlesex
Amelia Battley Daughter 4 St Georges Southwark Surrey (note: the name Priscilla had been crossed out and Amelia written above)
Priscilla Battley Daughter 1 St Johns Middlesex
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Genni
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