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DevonJewel
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Many thanks.
What about Ship records where should I look for them, because if it is my Amelia she must have gone back out around 1860 or early 1861 I presume possibly with other relatives or perhaps as a servant? (I'm just guessing at the moment) but the marriage details do seem to fit.
DJ
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SASHAR
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This was in the BISA:-
BATTLEY Richard Henry: born Maldon Essex England rel:C/E
married: 11.7.1840 Adelaide SA: Priscilla nee MOFFETT born England.
Other BATTLEY family's mentioned are:
Elias b: 1817 Norfolk m. Emily Allum & another unknown
resided in the Clarendon, Happy Valley, Kangarilla area.
Elijah: who is a child of the above and married Hannah Priscilla nee DIX. Also settled in the Clarendon area.
They all came to SA in 1853 on the MAGDALENA.
There doesn't appear to be a connection between these families and Richard Henry.
Nothing in the bisa for Priscilla MOFFETT or various spellings.
Hope that helps a little, Sashar
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DevonJewel
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Thanks for that.
Jenn found this for me yesterday - not sure where she found it
AMELIA SARAH BATTLEY aged 27 father Richard Henry Battley
married
EDWARD DUNN aged 27 father John Dunn
27/6/1873
both were single at
St Augustine Church Virginia Ade
BOOK95/PAGE 973
I was trying to trace her arrival in Australia c1840/1 and rest of life there I guess.
DJ
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SASHAR
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Hi DJ
Richard Henry Battley arrived 10th June 1840 on the "Orleana" from London 29.2.1840.
see
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/
Go to South Australian Passenger Lists and put in "Battley"
Richard Henry appears and under that, which I can't quite work out but it mentions Amelia & Priscilla, Moffett, Morgan & Pople.
Someone else might be able to decipher that for you.
I couldn't see Amelia or Edward Dunn in the BISA.
Regards, Sashar
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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire: Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia: Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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SASHAR
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Now go to
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/SAships1840.htm
and you will find the Orleana passenger list.
Regards, Sashar
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Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire: Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia: Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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By what I can see David MORGAN arrived on the Orleana in 1840 along with his wife Christina MOFFATT nee POPLE. David had previously arrived in 1837 aboard The Emma so he had returned to UK and married Christina/Christian Moffatt nee Pople a widow and in 1840 he returned with his family consisting of his new wife and her 3 daughters from a previous marriage Priscilla, Selina and Amelia MOFFATT and 2 children presumably from his marriage to Christina (Looks like David and William MORGAN)
All three girls wed in Adelaide. I see you have Priscilla's. (Fathers are not listed on most early SA marriage Certs - but fortunately for you at least father of the girls appears to be listed at Amelia's second marriage) 
Here are Amelia's two marriages and Selina's Marriage
LITTLETON William Weston 27 Single Father not recorded = MOFFETT Amelia 24 Single Father not recorded 5 Jul 1854 St Paul Church Port Adelaide Dist Ade
Symbol A 20/204
HAYES William Henry 28 Status unrecorded father Henry Hayes = LITTLETON Amelia 24 Status unrecorded father John Moffitt 25 Aug 1857 St Mark [Penwortham] Dist Cla Symbol A 31/368
WATSON Jas Samuel 40 Status and father unrecorded = MOFFATT Selina 26 Status and father unrecorded 7 May 1850 St James Church [Blakiston] Dist Ade 14/143
Christina MORGAN age 77 Husband David died 29 May 1877 Wallaroo (of Wallaroo) Dist Dal 81 415
Cheers Kris 
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The Morgan Boys
MORGAN David 26 Father David Morgan = SMITH Alice Pattin 26 Single father Owen Smith 10 Jun 1865 Res of David Morgan Adelaide Dist Ade 62/240 (2 Births)
MORGAN William Webster 28 Single father David Morgan = BLOOD Mary Anne 20 Single father Michael Blood 17 Dec 1868 Royal Mail Hotel Kingston Dist Rob 77/635 (10 Births)
Selina and James Watson had 8 children...Selina died aged 42 (Husband James Samuel) 25 Aug 1866 Penola (of Penola) Dist Gre 24 589 looks like childbirth related last birth was on the 14th
Don't see any to Amelia (William Littleton died aged 30 (father Francis) 19 Apr 1956 Nth Adelaide dist Ade 3 200- William Henry Hayes died aged 74 24 Oct 1907 Adelaide Dist Ade 328 454 Rel Not Recorded - don't see Amelia to 1915
John MOFFATT = Christian POPLE 13 JUN 1820 Saint Martin In The Fields Westminster London
David MORGAN = Christian MOFFATT 23 MAY 1833 Saint Martin In The Fields Westminster London
So looks like David was already married to Christian when he came the first time in 1837 and then went back for her and the children
Cheers Kris
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SASHAR
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Rechecking the BISA.
Nothing for MORGAN.
LITTLETON: Wm Westow born c1827 died 19.4.1856 Pt Adelaide buried Alberton SA occ: Gentleman rel: C/E
married: 5.7.1854 Pt Adelaide SA Amelia nee MOFFATT born c.1830
remarried: Wh HAYES Child: Amelia Hayes b. 1857
HAYES William Henry (Bully) born c1829 died 1877 South Sea Islands
arrived: 1857 C.S.BRADLEY occ: Master Mariner, Buccaneer
married: l/2 unknown
married: 2/2 25.8.1857 Penwortham SA Mrs Amelia LITTLETON nee MOFFATT
born c 1830 died 13.1.1927 Mellor Park SA buried Cheltenham Cemetery SA
WATSON James Samuel par: John & Mary nee MOFFATT B.1809 Ireland died 25.5.1882 buried Penola SA occ: Farmer, Sheep Inspector
resided: Mt Barker, Penola, North Adelaide, Clare rel: Presb
married: 1/2 7.5.1850 Mt Barker SA Selina nee MOFFATT B.C. 1824 IRE died 25.8.1866 Penola SA
children:
Jas Moffatt 1851-1904
John Little 1852-1921
Mary Selina YOUNG 1854-1953
Wm Henry 1857-1936
Margretta Isobel SMITH 1859-1893
Selina Bride 1861-1959
Anne Christina 1864-1955
Arthur Percival Bride 1866-1867
married 2/2 Penola SA Mrs Henrietta Maria POOLE nee LONGFORD parents: Robt.
born 1814 Eng died 14.9.1874 Penola SA no children
Some interesting info to keep you going - Sashar
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Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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1st Sept 1857
On the 25th August, at St Mark's Church, Penwortham, by the Rev. Mr Woods, Captain W.H.Hayes, of New York, to Amelia Littleton, of Pt Adelaide.
Taken from the Register of Personal Noticed 1836-1859
Regards, Sashar
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Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire: Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia: Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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HAYES William Henry (Bully) born c1829 died 1877 South Sea Islands
arrived: 1857 C.S.BRADLEY occ: Master Mariner, Buccaneer
Cool! Is that really a legit occupation?! How fabulous
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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SASHAR
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Just Google for William Henry Hayes - he's in the online Australian Dictionary of Biography -- not so cool, oh well, what a fabulous character to have in your history anyway.
Sashar
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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
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Derbyshire: Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia: Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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PrueM
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Well, not exactly cool, but what a fascinating (if dodgy) life! 
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray, Inverness) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (Banff) – SWAN (Fife) – WOOD (LND)
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Well, not exactly cool, but what a fascinating (if dodgy) life!
I could just see Errol Flynn in the lead role
regards jenn
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Hi DJ
I believe this is Amelia in 1861.
RG9/339 Fol: 142 Page: 27
8 Beresford St, St Mary Newington, Surrey
John HOWELL Head 66 Dublin Ireland Tailor (Master)
Sarah A HOWELL Wife 57 London Middlesex
Amelia Batley Servant 14 London Middlesex
I can only find Priscilla Snr, Priscilla Jnr & Rosina on the 1871 census, not the rest of the family.
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Genni
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DevonJewel
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Wowee you people have really been having a go whilst I slept. Many thanks.
I must admit some of this I've got, but not all the detail - there's a lot more detail and that's GREAT - thanks a lot.
A simple query - how come when I look for Ameilia on the 1861 census in "Findmypast" nothing comes up and yet others find it easily - what are you using? I've got so much to learn!
Now another question please. There's two Amelias - Amelia Moffatt who came out on the Orleana and Amelia Battley b 1846 (father Richard Henry) who was found on the 1861 census in London as a servant but then later - found by Jenn marries out in Adelaide as follows:-
AMELIA SARAH BATTLEY aged 27 father Richard Henry Battley
married
EDWARD DUNN aged 27 father John Dunn
27/6/1873
both were single at
St Augustine Church Virginia Ade
BOOK95/PAGE 973
Can anyone please tell me when/how she got there?
assuming it's the same family but the names and ages all fit.
DJ
PS They've made a film of about Bully Hayes - the good pirate! I'm pleased to have him in my tree (bit of excitement) but pleased he's not a blood relative!
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