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nsc
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I am trying to trace the birth details of Clara Powell. According to the censuses, she was born c1869 in Pool Head, Shropshire (where is Pool Head???)
Can anybody help?
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Neil
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nsc
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Hi Nicky,
It's the 1901 census. She's living at 11 Coole Lane, Baddington, Nantwich, Cheshire, married to Joseph Owen. She's 32 years old, and her place of birth is given as Shrop. Pool head (unluss I've misread it!).
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Neil
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Incidentally, her parents are living nearby at 2 Hack Green. Samuel Powell (72) born in Bagley (?) Shrops, and his wife, Emma (65), born in Wem. Does 'Bagley' make sense?
Any info on these two would also be much appreciated!
Thanks
Neil
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Nicky
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This may help, in 1891 she is listed as being born Wem Shropshire
address Coole Lane
Joseph Owen, head, married, age 22,agricultural labourer born Cheshire Coole Pilate
Clara Owen, wife, married, age born Shropshire Wem
Martha Owen, mother,widow, age 59,living on her own means born Cheshire Baddington
William Owen, nephew,age 6,scholar born Cheshire Baddington
Civil parish: Baddington
Ecclesiastical parish: Acton
County: Cheshire
Source information: RG12/2855
Registration district: Nantwich
Sub registration district: Nantwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Folio: 43
Page: 6
Iwill look back on the 1881 and 1871 and see if i can see her.
Nicky
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSewell - Surrey Lynch - Ireland, Devon and Channel Islands Whall and Pye - Norwich, Essex and Kent Cotterill - Warwickshire Adams - North and East Riding of Yorkshire Preest, Dufty Lewis, Aston - Forest of Dean |
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Nicky
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in 1881 Clara appears to be a servant.
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Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Daniel EVANS Head M Male 48 Marchoul, Denbigh, Wales Farmer 144 Acres
Sarah A. EVANS Wife M Female 42 Worthernbury, Flint, Wales Farmers Wife
Alice A. EVANS Daughter Female 2 Wem, Shropshire, England
Sarah A. EVANS Daughter Female 8 m Wem, Shropshire, England
Richard COTTON Serv U Male 18 Prees, Shropshire, England Cowman Al
George COTTON Serv U Male 18 Prees, Shropshire, England Waggoner Al
Martha LEEK Serv U Female 18 Burlton, Shropshire, England Genl Servant
Clara POWELL Serv U Female 12 Wem, Shropshire, England Nurse
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Source Information:
Dwelling Northwood
Census Place Wem, Shropshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341640
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2667 / 81
Page Number 2
and in the 1871 census
Samuel Powell, head, age 42, ag lab born Salop Edstaston
Emma Powell, wife, age 35 born Salop Wem
William Powell, son, age 18, wheelwright born Salop Wem
Mary Powell, daughter, age 9, scholar, born Salop Edstaston
Frances Powell,daughter, age 7,scholar born Salop Edstaston
Benjamin Powell,son, age 7,scholar born Salop Edstaston
Elizabeth Powell, daughter, age 4 born Salop Edstaston
Clara Powell, daughter, age 2 born Salop Edstaston
Civil parish: Edstaston
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Source information: RG10/2792
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Folio: 51
Page: 6
Household schedule number: 21
Hope this helps
Nicky
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSewell - Surrey Lynch - Ireland, Devon and Channel Islands Whall and Pye - Norwich, Essex and Kent Cotterill - Warwickshire Adams - North and East Riding of Yorkshire Preest, Dufty Lewis, Aston - Forest of Dean |
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That's wonderful!
Thankyou very much!
Neil
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poppies
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Hello Neil,
Just seen your request for information about Clara Powell.
Sorry I do not have any information except that she was a sister to my husbands great grandfather, William Powell. So far have not done much research on William's brothers & sisters. Was Clara your ancestor? They were a family of 10 daughters & 3 sons of Samuel Powell & Emma Deakin.
Will be pleased to exchange information.
regards
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Adams, Arrowsmith, Beckett, Brassey, Claypole, Davie, Deakin, Ennion, Ford, Frost, Galsworthy, Griffin, Griffiths, Hargreaves, Holdcroft, Holliday, Kendall, Krebs, McLaren, Powell, Shone, Smith, Wilding.
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Hello Poppies,
That's fantastic!!!!
Yes, Clara Powell was my great grandmother on my mother's side.
I'll tell you what I have - but it's not much:
My mum is (Marian) Wendy Owen, born Nantwich, 1932. Her father was Joseph Owen (Baddington, 1900) who married Jane Edge (Nantwich 1894).
Joseph (whom I was very close to)'s parents were Clara Powell and Joseph Owen (both born c1869).
I've then got Clara's parents as Samuel Powell (1828, Hordley, shrops) and Emma (c1836).
Samuel's parents were, I believe, William and Mary, but I have nothing else.
Yes, it's the same Clara Powell.
Any information we could exchange would be fantastic.
THANKYOU!!
Neil
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Hi Neil,
Just shows what a great site this is!! Glad you've got a new found relative and information.
By the way have just noticed from your original post you were looking for Pool Head - Poolhead is 2 miles east of Northwood - next to Waterloo - where my brother lives - near Whixall where I play Crown Green Bowls!!
Small World!!
Cheers
Keith
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poppies
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Hi Neil,
Pleased to hear from you. Very willing to share research.
To start with. Yes, William & Mary were Samuel's parents.
William married Mary Austin at Hordley Church on 27th. December 1826.
Samuel was bap. on 30 Nov. 1829 at Hordley. There were 5 more sons Thomas 1833, William 1834 George 1837, James1843, Joseph 1846 & 1 daughter Sarah 1839. Info from Shropshire fhs index, Prees Green Register of Baptisms 1824-1837 & another source which I have forgotten.
On the 1841 census, near Bostock Hall Whixall, a Mary Powell widow aged 75 of independent means is living with William & Mary who I have assumed is his mother.
Samuel married Emma Deakin (dau. of Joshua & Elizabeth nee Lane) on 27th. December 1851 at Wem Independent Chapel.
Their children were William 1853, Annie 1855, Caroline 1857, Leah 1859, Mary 1862, Frances & Benjamin 1864, Elizabeth 1867, Clara 1869, Matilda 1872, Joseph 1874, Agnes 1875 and Lydia 1878 all born Pool Head, Edstaston.
Will post more info soon.
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Adams, Arrowsmith, Beckett, Brassey, Claypole, Davie, Deakin, Ennion, Ford, Frost, Galsworthy, Griffin, Griffiths, Hargreaves, Holdcroft, Holliday, Kendall, Krebs, McLaren, Powell, Shone, Smith, Wilding.
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Thankyou Poppies, that's wonderful!
One thing you may be able to shed some light on (or maybe not).
My uncle Seymour (sadly died a couple of years ago) always said that his Grandad (ie Joseph Owen snr - husband of Clara) was the Molecatcher of Wem. He was proud because he kept and treasured his 'molecatcher' spade.
To be honest, it always sounded a bit fanciful to me - firstly, we knew nothing of a Wem connection, and secondly, when we found a connection, it was the Powell family, not the Owen one.
However, perhaps I was too dismissive. Maybe there is some credence, but perhaps he mixed up his grandfather with another famliy member.
Have you heard anything remotely familiar?
And thanks again for the info!!!!
Neil
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poppies
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Hi again, Sorry but I have not heard about the Molecatcher of Wem.
I didn't know who Clara had married until I saw your message. (Incidently one of my grandsons is Joseph Owen)
Who was Tom Owen? Was he Clara's son? I was looking through some newspaper cuttings today & he is a 'nephew' at Elizabeth's funeral.
I do not know when Samuel & Emma moved from Pool Head to Hack Green (it was after 1881 census) or how many children moved with them. William went to work in Birkenhead for a time but was at Cotton by 1881 census and lived there for the rest of his life. He was married Emma Ennion from Handley, near Chester. Their eldest child was born in Tranmere in 1878.
Caroline married Davenport; Agnes married Jones;
Elizabeth married Wisdom; Joseph married someone named Elizabeth; another daughter married someone named Ridgway; Mary was known as Polly; another daughter had two sons though unmarried.
Do you know anything more about them? Will be pleased to have any info.
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Adams, Arrowsmith, Beckett, Brassey, Claypole, Davie, Deakin, Ennion, Ford, Frost, Galsworthy, Griffin, Griffiths, Hargreaves, Holdcroft, Holliday, Kendall, Krebs, McLaren, Powell, Shone, Smith, Wilding.
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Thanks Poppies,
I'll speak to my mother at the weekend to see if she recognises anything.
By the way, where are you?
Neil
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Hi Poppies
Thankyou again for the info on the Powell family. Can’t give you any info on Powells, but I can on the Owen branch that Clara married into. (If I am repeating myself, please bear with me).
Clara married Joseph Owen 18 Feb 1891. Joseph lived in Coole Lane, Baddington, and was was the son of William Owen (28.9.1832 – 16.9.1889) and Martha Dykes (c1832). Strangely, I haven’t been able to trace their marriage certificate. Martha’s parents were George Dykes (28.2.1808) and Martha Stockton (c1802); I don’t have William’s parents. William was born in Worleston, near Nantwich.
William and Martha’s family were Mary (1852), Sarah (1858), Thomas (1860), Elizabeth (1862), George (1864), Jane (1866), Joseph (1869), Charles (1871) and Lily (1876).
Clara and Joseph’s family were Thomas (1887), Reginald (1892), Oliver (1895), Doris (1897), Joseph (1900), Hilda (1902) and Margaret (1903). Other than my granfather, Joseph, I’m not sure that I remember any of them (though I’m told that I must do). My grandad, Joseph, died on 23.01.1974.
As for the Powell family moving to Hack Green – the 1901 census has:
2 Hack Green
Samuel Powell 72 Agricultural Labourer born Bagley, Shrops
Emma Powell 65 born Wem
Joseph Powell 27 Agricultural Labourer born Wem
Lydia Powell 23 Domestic Servant born Wem
Fred Powell 11 (grandson) born Acton
Samuel Powell 6 (grandson) born Acton
11 Coole Lane
Joseph Owen 32 Agricultural Labourer born Coole Lane
Clara Owen 32 born Pool Head, Shrops
Reginald Owen 9 born Coole Lane
Oliver Owen 6 born Coole Lane
Doris Owen 4 born Coole Lane
Joseph Owen 9 months born Coole Lane
Martha (mother) 69 widow born Coole Lane
Elizabeth (sister) 38 Domestic Servant born Coole Lane
Hack House Farm
Thomas Owen 14 Cowman on Farm born Hack Green
Hope some of this is useful. I’ll ask my mother at the weekend if she remembers anything about the Powell family. You never know!
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