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Could some kind person please find the marriage of a Thomas Finnigan/Finegen/Finnagen lots of different spellings to an Amelia Ann  I think in Liverpool possibly before 1878 when their daughter Amelia was born. I have searched from 1870 to 1880 and found nothing.
I can't find any of the family on the 1881 census or Thomas on the 1871 and daughter Amelia is living with her aunt and cousins on the 1891 census. Thomas was born circa 1856 to Susan and Edward Finnegan in Liverpool. (Peter died in 1857 and Susan died 1869 again in Liverpool). I have looked for him living with siblings and even cousins because he would have only been about 14 but he isn't showing up anywhere.
I have looked for Thomas and Amelia Ann's deaths from 1878 - 1891 but found nothing. Anyone got any ideas where to look next?
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Margaret
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Hello Margaret
Just a first thought. Do you have Amelia's birth certificate? That should give you Amelia Ann's maiden name anyway. A candidate birth is ...
4th quarter 1878 Liverpool Vol 8b page 168
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Thanks for the reference Isobel
I am going to send off for it today because I think it's the only way I will be able to get some more information on Thomas.
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Are you sure Susan died? There's a marriage in Liverpool in 1862 between Susana FINEGAN/HARRISON and James BARRY. (Lancashire BMD give both names - usually maiden and previous married names, not necessarily in that order.) On the 1871 census, they have children aged 13-22, so born before the marriage, including a Thomas, b. c1856 in Liverpool.
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thanks Rambler
I must have missed that one. The reference I have got is the death of Susan/nah Finnegan 3rd quarter 1869 in Liverpool and just presumed that she had died. I should practice what I preach. Check, check and double check. LOL
I will certainly follow up that lead.
Margaret
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I need some help on this one Rambler
I found the marriage in 1862 but not the reference to Finegan/Harrison and I can't find them on the 1871 census. I have tried using just surname, Christian name and ages but nothing is showing up. What was the occupation of James Barry? If it's the same one as the 1881 census there are no children living with them just a grandchild.
Sorry to be a pest.
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The double name is on Lancashire BMD http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
However, I think I've slipped up, as now I look again, I realise the Barry couple in 1871 are called John and Susana, not James... 
Thomas and the widowed daughter Susana Thompson are fair matches for 2 of the Finegan children, but I'm afraid it's not your family after all. 
So your death ref. for Susan could be right, but I see no sign of Thomas anywhere.
I can't find an Amelia Ann Finegan (any spelling!) on census or BMD records - where did you find her name? (I presume Thomas' name was on his daughter's marriage cert?)
Sorry for misleading you!
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thought I was going potty when I couldn't make the link. Thanks for letting me know it was wrong.
I have just sent for the marriage certificate for Thomas and the birth certificate for Amelia his daughter hoping they may shed some light on the family.
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Just wanted to double check. In your original post, you mentioned Thomas' father as being Edward, but then said Peter died in 1857. Is his father Edward or Peter? Did you have them in 1861, with Susan a widow, and with siblings Edward, John and Susan?
Just to be sure I'm starting in the right place. I'm intrigued now 
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Sorry Isobel
My mind isn't working very well today. His parents were Peter and Susan/nah Finnegan. Edward and Thomas were brothers, Edward being 10 years older than Thomas. Edward married Agnes circa 1869 and Thomas married Amelia circa 1878. The next thing is Edward dies about 1879 , there is no sign of Thomas as I said but Agnes remarries 1883 and on the 1891 census Amelia Thomas' daughter is living with Agnes and new husband Matthew Welsh.
I bet I've confused you now. LOL
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Don't be so quick to dismiss the John and Susanna Barry as opposed to the Lancashire BMD marriage of JAMES Barray and Susanna Finnegan/Harrison.
Remember the widowed daughter Susanna Thompson living with the Barrys in 1871 well ...
4th Quarter 1868 Liverpool Vol 8b page 285
Marriage John THOMPSON and Susan FINNEGAN
I know it's still not answering the original question, but it's getting awfully interesting. 
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Thanks Isobel I will have a look and try and find a link. This is turning out to be really big mystery.
Margaret
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I know I am being a bit stupid today but I can't find any John Thompson married to a Susan/na on the 1871 census living in the Liverpool area. Am I looking in the wrong place? I can't even find James Barry and Susanna. I am really confused now.
Am I right in thinking that a James Barry married a Susan/na Finnegan and her daughter Susan married a John Thompson! Or would it be Mother Susan/na married John Thompson? I can't find any of them on the 1871 census so I can't check. Can you tell me how you found them because I am blowed if I can. I'll not sleep tonight if I don't get this sorted.
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Susanna Finnegan/Harrison m. James BARRY in 1862. (Possibly Thomas' mother.)
Susan FINNEGAN m. John THOMPSON in 1868. (Possibly Thomas' sister.)
1871 census shows John (not James!) and Susanna Barry with widowed daughter Susanna Thompson, aged 22. (RG10/3755; Folio: 95; Page: 18)
The question is: could John and James Barry be the same person?
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thanks Rambler
I will have to sort this one out. It's getting very confusing. I will have a look at the census page you suggested and get back to you.
Margaret
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