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1235 Surrey Eyre
« on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:10 GMT (UK) »

Simple question, what was it?

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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:16 GMT (UK) »

It Comes in two Volumes,thats all I can get from googling
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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:27 GMT (UK) »

So did I, couldn't get access to JSTOR which looked promising.

I presume it's a list of some sort, but what?

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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:33 GMT (UK) »

The Surrey Record Society will know, it's one of their publications:


long link to SRS publications

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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:37 GMT (UK) »

I'm guessing from the search engine references, and this footnote to an article, that it is something to do with legal references.

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The best discussion of the ways in which appeals were actually used, as opposed to the legal theory behind the appeal, can be found in Crown Pleas of the Surrey Eyre of 1235, C. A. F. Meekings (ed.), Surrey Record Society, 31 (Guildford, 1979), pp.116-125.
http://www.finerollshenry3.org.uk/content/month/april_2006.html


Very intriguing !! .....  for instance
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Bedfordshire Eyre -- Bedfordshire Eyre 1247, ed. G. H. Fowler, Bedfordshire ... In 1235, for example, plaintiff produced suf ficient suit but lost because he had no ...
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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 18:50 GMT (UK) »

Found a reference to a London Eyre, too, and then, searching on eyre legal, I found this  Smiley :

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Because the local courts and the parties weren't always anxious to pay the king his fine, the king developed the eyre system. The eyre system imposed royal power directly by a system of traveling justices. The eyre inquired about money's owed to the king, unexplained deaths and handled ordinary disputes between people (for a price). Initially this system didn't go over very well and the coming of the eyre struck fear in the hearts of the population. The eyre imposed heavy fines and brought a reign of terror to some communities. Many people fled or alternatively killed the eyre. However, eventually the eyre became a regular feature of English life and legal disputes began to be handled by the king. Instead of going to a local court people now had the option of seeking justice from the king directly when the eyre came to town.

From the eyre system emerged the corem rege-- the King's bench-- a regular court of law; the exchequer which dealt with legal disputes arising out of royal revenue; and the court of common pleas (which were later to be held at a fixed place). Royal legal power was also greatly strengthened under Henry II (1155-1183). In his famous battle with Beckett the issue was whether the church was to have exclusive jurisdiction over the clergy. The compromise created a wedge for royal authority to enter into church matters.
http://www.lawyerviews.com/lawsite/history.html

Amazing what crops up here sometimes.

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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 February 07 19:10 GMT (UK) »

I've found a copy to borrow on the inter-loan library service as well as the Eyres for 1258-9 and 1263

I'm intrigued as to what the volume contains, so I'll order 1235 and let you know.

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Re: 1235 Surrey Eyre
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 April 07 21:57 BST (UK) »

I have managed to borrow from University of Liverpool Library  Shocked

2 volumes and an index.

To be honest it's hard work getting to grips with but as I have the books for a couple more weeks am willing to do SURNAME look ups.

Please bear in mind that this is the year 1235 !!

I had hoped my Longhursts might have been in it of only to prove how old this family really is.

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