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Topic: Marriage - John Williamson c1765 (Read 889 times)
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specialkg
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I am trying to find the marriage of John Williamson born 1745 to Christian Hosack born 1743. Their first child Elizabeth was born on 29th March 1767. They were all born in Speymouth.
My reason for this request is to find the parents of John Williamson which would get me back another generation.
If there is another way please let me know.
Thanks
Betty
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Ann Baker
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Hi Betty
Not finding the marriage you seek but have found these which may be of help :
29/10/1727 WILLIAMSON CHRISTAN WILLIAM HOSACK/ F Cromarty /ROSS AND CROMARTY
18/01/1712 WILLIAMSON DONALD ISOBEL HOSACK/ M Cromarty /ROSS AND CROMARTY
10/07/1705 WILLIAMSON JOHN JEAN HOSACK/ M Cromarty /ROSS AND CROMARTY
13/02/1706 WILLIAMSON MARGT DONALD HOSACK/ F Cromarty /ROSS AND CROMARTY
That came from an all Scotland search from 1500s to 1854 on Scotland's people
Is possible not recorded if they were anything other than established Church of Scotland as 'non-conformist' records not on Scotland's People. That part of Scotland more likely to be non-conformist as well
However the National archives Scotland is well worth contacting cos they have some non- conformist records
Cheers
Amm
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McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Ann Baker
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Hi
Think this one might be Christian
02/09/1744 HOSACK CHRISTIAN ANDREW HOSACK/BARBARA ANDERSON FR245 F Speymouth /MORAY 143/ 0020 0105
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Ann Baker
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Think this is their son
18/08/1776 WILLIAMSON JOHN JOHN WILLIAMSON/CHRISTIAN HOSUK FR351 M Speymouth /MORAY
Alas nothing for John senior in Birth department 
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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specialkg
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Thanks for sending all that information.
Not sure about the Cromarty lot but the last two messages certainly look like my bunch.
Thanks for that.
Regards
Betty
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Ann Baker
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Hi Betty
You're welcome. The OPR baptism is worth getting from Scotland's People but it may not have parents details on it. Unfortunately the OPR records vary in content whereas anything post 1855 is unform in content.
However it is worth having a look.
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Forfarian
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I am trying to find the marriage of John Williamson born 1745 to Christian Hosack born 1743. Their first child Elizabeth was born on 29th March 1767. They were all born in Speymouth.
My reason for this request is to find the parents of John Williamson which would get me back another generation.
Betty, even if you do find the marriage record (highly unlikely) it is not going to tell you the names of the couple's parents. If you are very lucky you might get the name of the bride's father, but not her mother or the groom's parents, unless they were very prominent and important folk.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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specialkg
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Thanks Forfarian.
When I put my message on back in February I did not realise you didn't get the parents on the OPR. I now realise you don't get very much!!
Thanks
Betty
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Forfarian
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Yes, sorry, I know I'm a bit late with that piece of information
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Ann Baker
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Forfarian
It's not strictly true you don't get parents details on any of the OPRs tho I agree that if you do find it you are very lucky. I have some for my family who are from Paisley where the parents names are there but even this varies within different parishes in Paisley. Most don't is true to say and the fact they all had different ways of recording the info doesn't help but it is always worth a try as you never know.
I wasn't expecting much when I looked and was pleasantly surprised to find them.
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Forfarian
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It's not strictly true you don't get parents details on any of the OPRs
No, but it's the most useful generalisation 
I have never actually seen an OPR marriage record where the full names of all four parents were recorded, but then I haven't yet had occasion to look up any OPR marriages in Paisley.
I reckon I'd rather make the generalisation, then anyone who gets one of the few with this information can gloat over being so lucky (or even over proving me wrong), than raise hopes which are mostly going to be disappointed.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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Ann Baker
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Forfarian
Sorry was not question of gloating or trying to prove you wrong. As you will see I agreed the majority don't have the info and indeed I almost didn;t bother looking for same reason but was pleasantly surprised to find what I did.
The point I was making is that it is always worth having a look but on the basis you start off from i point which we are both agreed on that you shouldn;t have high expectations
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Forfarian
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Sorry was not question of gloating or trying to prove you wrong. I didn't actually think you were - apologies if it sounded like that. It's difficult to type with one's tongue in one's cheek
we are both agreed on that you shouldn't have high expectations Indeed we are.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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