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Topic: Ann Birchenough or Ann Allen.Born Sandbach abt1811 (Read 865 times)
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andrea_brydson
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Would anyone have any information on this lady (Census or otherwise) .She may have just USED the name Birchenough and not actually ever been married. The 1871 Census shows she had brother staying with her named Stephen Allen.She was Born about 1811 in Sandbach,Cheshire .She had 3 children that I know of Sarah ,Samuel and Henry (all using the Birchenough surname ).Lived in Union Street,Sandbach. Would anyone have details on birth , marriage or parents ? The BMD is not much use as I'm not sure if she is an Allen or Birchenough. Many thanks.
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peterbennett
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Samuel if ever an Ag Lab looked like one it was he
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Hi Andrea
Welcome to Rootschat
The best place to start would be if you could get hold of a birth certificate for one of the children,there is an Henry b1841 indexed on the http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ this may give a clue as to father and maybe an address. I have searched the 1851 census which is name indexed but there is no sign of them.
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Moys
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Hi,
I have a Ann Birchenough in my husbands line.
On her daughters Sarah's birth certificate it states that
Ann Birchenough is unmarried.
I have found the baptism for Ann in St Mary's Sandbach
baptised 10 March 1810 father Nathan mother Sarah
I have her on the 1851 census:
Back Street, Sandbach;
Ann Birchenhough Head U 40 shoebinder Sandbach Cheshire
Samuel son U 18 shoemaker Sandbach
Sarah daug U 14 silk throwster Sandbach
Henry son 9 silkthrowster half time Sandbach
Hannah daug 4 scholar Sandbach
Is this the family you are looking for?
Kindest Regards,
Moira
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Moys
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Hi Andrea,
I have found how Ann Birchenough
and Stephen Allan are connected;-
Ann's father Nathan died and his wife
Sarah married John Allan 15th May 1815
Stephen is Ann'a half brother.
Let me know if I can be of any more help.
Kind Regards,
Moira
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johnb
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Moira
I noted your reply to my niece Andrea. Most useful. But I cannot trace Stephen Allan, apart from the 1871 Census. Nor Nathan or Sarah.
Could you give me birthdates and places please.
Also how do you access the 1851 Census (I'm just getting started - as you might gather - on a massive Birchenough family tree (my wife is Nancy Birchenough from Sandbach).
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Moys
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Hello Jonhb,
I have transcribed the 1851 census you will find it at:
http://www.odd-rode.org.uk/
hope you find it usefull.
In the 1851 census Stephen is a lodger in Back Street, Sandbach
I have'nt found him on any other census'.
I haven't found Nathan'sburial yet must have died before 1815,
On the parish records for St Mary, Sandbach the entry for the marriage of
John Allan & Sarah Birchenough it says that she is a widow.
Nathan Birchenough married Sarah Jones
St Mary's, Sandbach, 29 Dec 1807.
I'm still looking for the births of Nathan & Sarah.
Please let me know if I can be of any other help.
Moira
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andrea_brydson
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Moira ,thank you for the information and I think we share a similar research area ,although I have only reached as far back as Ann Birchenough in my line (so far) . I come back from the Birchenough side (maternally ) I've been fairly busy at work frecently and so have one only just restarted looking back. I've saved this URL and so if I find anything else I'll be in touch .Many thanks once again.
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andrea_brydson
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Hello Moira again, After working on the 'tree' tonight.I've found that (thanks to your information) Sarah Birchenough Poole is also my 2nd Great Grand-Mother. So I think this makes us related. I have the family history from Sarah on forward to modern day if you need any gaps to be filled.
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Moys
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Hi Andria,
That's great news.
I've sent you my email address,
look forward to shareing info with you.
Moira
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johnb
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The 1851 Census for Sandbach provides the following:
at 148 Front Street Sandbach H.O.107 2168
John POOLE H M 39 Gen.lab.. Warmingham
Hannah POOLE W M 39 Bunbury
Ellen POOLE D 18 Silkhand Moston
Charles POOLE S 15 Silkhand Warmingham
Jane POOLE D 13 Silkhand Warmingham
Samuel POOLE S 8 Scholar Moston
Thomas ALLEN Lodger Wdr 73 Peddler Macclesfield
Could Thomas ALLEN be the father of Stephen? He would have been born in abt 1778. can anyone help?
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xhosa
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Hi, I've been in email contact with a lot of you about Birchenhough's in Sandbach, but only just found this message!
The Birchenhough I'm interested in is William Birchenhough, who in the 1851 census is shown living with his wife's family - the Cockbain's (house 111, The Heath). His place of birth is also listed as Sandbach, so I'm guessing he must be the son of one of the other Birchenhough families in that area (he was 24 in 1851) - does anyone who is tracing these lines back any further have any info on this William? If so, could I get access to it, or indeed to any other Birchenhough lines - I'm trying to track all of them in my family tree (software, gedcom format compatible), so that I can eventually link them up at some point.
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Matthew
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Moys
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Hi Matthew,
From the church records
St Mary's Sandbach. 25 Dec 1850
marriage-
William BIRCHENOUGH -age 24-single-Bricklayer-father John Birchenough-shoemaker.
Mary COCKBAIN- age 17-single-father Mark Cockbain-slater
Baptism- 7 Sep 1851
Thomas Birchenough- William & Mary - fathers occ. Bricklayer
Hope this helps,
Moira
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xhosa
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Excellent! Thats just he information I was looking for! Many thanks 
I've looked back at the Sandbach 1851 census to try and determine which of the Birchenhough families living there William Birchenhough might be descended from. There is only one John Birchenhough, and he is listed as married with one son living in the property who is 17, which makes William's age of 24 seem reasonable. John's occupation is cordwainer, which I have discovered is a type of bootmaker, which ties in with the occupation of shoemaker listed on William's marriage records you gave me above.
So now my next question is - is anybody researching this line (John Birchenhough m. Sarah, son Peter)?
Many thanks once again - these last few days have moved my family tree forward immeasurably!
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Moys
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Hi,
found these baptisms for John & Sarah
in St Mary's, Sandbach. John's occ. shoemaker
Hannah 18 Nov 1819
Thomas 1 march 1823
Emma 11 May 1828
Harriet 28 Nov 1830
marriages-
22 June 1857
John Birchenough-age full-single-bricklayer-John Birchenough shoemaker
Ann Sparrow=age full-single-William Sparrow wheelright
wittness-L M Birchenough & James Bailey
14 Nov 1850
George Dean-age 21-single-Tailor-John Dean tailor
Emma Birchenough-age 22-single-Silkthrower-John Birchenough shoemaker
wittness- Thomas Dean & Ann Thorley
Regards,
Moira
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