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Topic: Ballybay - just a town or area? (Read 1910 times)
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millymcb
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Hi all
Would anyone be able to help me regarding Ballybay? If someone appears in a Census in England in 1891 and puts their birthplace as Ballybay (abt 1831) is it likely that they mean the town of Ballybay itself or would it be that they are referring to a larger parish or registration district. I'm trying to work out whether to keep my search narrow or widen it out to cover other towns.
Many thanks
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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leprechaun
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Hi Ballybay is a Townland and civil Parish in Co, Monaghan. Barony Cremorno,
Province Ulster.
Lep.
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aghadowey
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Someone putting 'Ballybay' as a birthplace could also be referring to the area, perhaps Ballybay was the nearest town.
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millymcb
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Thanks...I was hoping everyone would say "of course not it can ONLY be the town" but I thought you'd probably say it wasn't. Will have to widen my search I guess.
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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leprechaun
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The civil Parish is always a good place to look.
lep.
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millymcb
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Thanks all..
I'm still looking into this and my latest theory is that my great grandfather's (who was born Ballybay abt 1829/1830) was the son of a soldier with the Royal Artillery who joined 1810 and was abroad until 1828 and then his records say at home until he left in 1834.
Would anyone know if the Royal Artillery may have been stationed nearby at the relevant time???
Many thanks
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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peadar
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Ballybay town is in the parish of Tullycorbet. I was born in Ballybay.
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millymcb
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Hi Peadar - welcome to Rootschat!
Have not looked at this line of the family recently as Ballybay turned into a bit of a dead end and Irish records are a bit of a mystery world. Do you know if parish records/baptism etc might still exist? Would I be asking for Tullycorbett and where might they be kept?
I've got a great book on Ballybay - written by a local historian with lots of info in it - pix of TUllycorbet, schools and church etc and listings of all the burials in a couple of the churchyards.... There are a few McBrides listed but nothing on my chap unfortunately. But if you need any look ups doing let me know.
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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peadar
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Hi Milly, with irish records first thing you must establish is the religion of your ancestor. Clones is a small town in Monaghan and they keep a lot of records but they are not on line. the l.d.s is the best chance they have research centres all over england where you can order the films you want and all you pay is the cost of postage for delivery to their research centres. by coincidence I am going to their centre in Nottingham to view the 1901 Tullycorbet census To morrow night. I will look for Mc Brides and email later in the week if i find anything of interest. peadar
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millymcb
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That would be very kind...all I know is that Henry McBride SAID he was born about 1831 (ish) in Ballybay. His father was James McBride (a shoemaker). His children were reputedly staunch protestant.
Many thanks
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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Duxbury3
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Millymcb - I noticed you mentioned a book written by a local historian about Ballybay. Would you happen to know the name of the book and where I might purchase it? If you could just give me the name of the book, that would be fine. Thank you.
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peadar
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the book is called, at the ford of the birches. it is a history of ballybay its people and vicinity. the authors are james h and peadar murnane. you will need to contact peadar murnane main st ballybay co monaghan for a copy of this book.
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Duxbury3
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Thank you so much, Peadar, I really appreciate it.
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Duxbury3
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By the way, Peadar, excuse me for not getting it sooner, but, is that you, as one of the authors?
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millymcb
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Yes that's the one... excellent book.
I think I probably got mine from e-bay a couple of years ago.
I can't find it at the moment (post decorating chaos!)...what's that about Peadar being one of the authors?
Milly 
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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