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Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« on: Wednesday 21 February 07 19:13 GMT (UK) »

Anyone know where to find passenger lists from Orkney to Canada in the 1800,s Looking  for Peter Kirkness who came to Ontario canada

Thanks

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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 19:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi Margaret,

Did Peter settle in Arthur, Wellington County? 

Have you tried www.olivetreegenealogy.com ?  There are some passenger lists there.

If your Peter is the one that came to Arthur, he states on the 1901 Census that he came to Canada from Scotland in 1854.

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Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
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Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 19:48 GMT (UK) »

Not sure if that is him My daughter in laws ancestors so will have to find out more. Wifes name was said to be Mary Anne Does that name show on the census with peter?


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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 20:04 GMT (UK) »

There is the following marriage registration:

Mary Anne Kirkness
Age:  19
Residence When Married:  Arthur
Place of Birth:  Thamesford
Parents:  Peter & Mary Kirkness

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Robert McDonald
Age:  23
Place of Birth: Eramosa
Residence when married:  Egremont
Occupation:  Farmer
Name of Parents:  Francis (?) and Elizabeth McDonald

Date of Marriage:  January 21, 1874, Mount Forest, County of Wellington, Ontario

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 20:18 GMT (UK) »

On the 1901 census, which you can see at www.automatedgenealogy.com Peter is listed as a Widow.  There is a death registration for Mary Kirkness in 1900 in Arthur.

Here is a birth registration for twins:

Alice Elizabeth and Ann Elira
Date of Birth:  January 23, 1873
Father:  Peter Kirkness
Mother:  Mary Scott
Occupation of Father;  Farmer
Lot 8, Concession 6, Township of Arthur

Registration No. 024602 & 024603

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:04 GMT (UK) »

Karen likely has the right fellow, here, as the 1871 shows one Peter Kirkness...
the FHS site has him married to a Mary Scott , several children...

Hmmm, frustrating, as only Mary Ann and Robert show up 1881-  Egremont with 4 sons:William, John, James & George
and her brother, William shows up in the U.S...But parents Peter and Mary and what is perhaps a long list of children don't show up! I'll keep looking...
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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:23 GMT (UK) »

Found 'em with Twins! 1881 Arthur, Wellington North, Ontario
Peter Kerkness 55 born Scotland is a Farmer 
Mary 45 Scotland     
Peter  23 / Farmer 
William 22 / Farmer
James 19 / Cooper 
Sarah 14 / Cooper 
John 16 / Farmer
George 13 
Alice 8
Annie 8
Emma 6   

Pedigree Resource File - Kirkness family- some spouses also listed...
this is a submission, so is not really reliable...as Mary Ann & Robert's marriage is down as Jan 1, 1874.... Roll Eyes
Mary Ann Kirkness-1856
Peter Kirkness -1858
George Kirkness -1859
William Kirkness -1860 Toronto?
James 1861 -Guelph,Wellington
Jennie -1862
Margaret Jane -1862 Arthur,Wellington
John R -1865
Sarah Kirkness -1867
George Kirkness -1869
Alice Kirkness- 1873 Arthur,Wellington
Emma Isabel - 1874 Arthur,Wellington
also some marriages listed...
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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 21:53 GMT (UK) »

This is suggested reading for those looking for passenger lists prior to 1865...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,159814.0.html

Hey, Karen, you must have put the twins on as I was looking around...( I missed seeing it!)
They likely have all this, but it's always interesting to see what records are out there... Cheesy  I love looking at the copies of the census records..except the rolls & rolls of it... Smiley J.J.
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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 22:10 GMT (UK) »

Didnt have any of that information. Am now looking at Automated geneology and it is a great place to look.  Thanks for all your help. Still dont know if its the people I am looking for but no doubt relatives of some sort. Would love to see which passenger lists they are on from Scotland.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 22:27 GMT (UK) »

The trouble is, memories for birth & immigration dates dwindle...but dates seem to coincide not to badly...
For instance...The daughter Mary ann...says she was born Sept 5th 1855 in Ontario...(see 1901 census....they are still in Grey/ Egremont)  Cheesy J.J.

( birth dates are really great to have though! )
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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 23:12 GMT (UK) »

Maggie,

Are you in Ontario?

Do you have Peter on the 1851 Scotland Census?

Perhaps they came to Toronto first, then Guelph then onto Arthur.

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Shipping lists to Canada in 1800,s
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 February 07 23:50 GMT (UK) »

think he was still in Scotland in 1881. Have  a few peters on that census. I  should really talk more with my daughter in law as there are so many possibilities. Thank you for all your information.

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