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Topic: 1871 look up please - Mellish (Read 312 times)
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chrissiehope
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Hi,
I decided to start a new post for this, as the old one was getting a bit cumbersome !
I'm looking for the Mellish family below, especially both Fanny & Frances (who I thought were one & the same person, but now appear to be two different people !). It is just possible that one or both of these girls were in Richmond Surrey (there seems to be a strong Mellish link with Richmond), & I will post this on the Surrey board as well, just in case !
This is how the family appeared in 1861:
Richard; MELLISH Jun; head; mar; 33; farm bailiff; Powerstock; F116P14
Lydia; MELLISH; wife; mar; 32; bailiff's wife; Swyre; F116P14
Rachell; MELLISH; daur; ; 11; ; Litton Cheney; F116P14
Fanny; MELLISH; daur; ; 9; scholar; Litton Cheney; F116P14
Frances; MELLISH; daur; ; 7; scholar; Litton Cheney; F116P14
George; MELLISH; son; ; 5; scholar; Surry Richmond; F116P14 [Walter George?]
Isaac; MELLISH; son; ; 3; ; Surry Richmond; F116P14
Ann; MELLISH; dau; ; 2; ; Litton Cheney; F116P14
Matilda; MELLISH; daur; ; 3m; ; Litton Cheney; F117P15
Thanks in anticipation,
Cheers,
Chris
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XPhile2868
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I found Frances in Richmond -
Frances MELLISH bc1853 Richmond
RG10/868
Folio 126
Page 3
She's a servant living with the WILLS family.
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Smith (Lancashire), McKenna (Ireland/Liverpool/Leyland), Maynard (Hertfordshire/London/Preston), Ricketts (Gloucestershire/Wigan/Preston), Scowcroft (Preston), Harling (N. Yorkshire/Lancashire), Willis (Preston), Clegg (Manchester/Preston), Dodd (Wigan/Cheshire), Alston (Lancashire), Hulks (Hertfordshire), Nicholson (Co Mayo, Ireland/Lancashire), Brown (Co Tipperary, Ireland/Lancashire), Wilson (Kendal) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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XPhile2868
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Fanny is also in Richmond -
George STATER bc1840 Woodcote, Oxon (Head)
Rosabella Susannah STATER bc1841 Brighton (Spouse)
Rachel NICHOLSON bc1847 Whitstable, Kent (Lodger)
Fanny MELLISH bc1850 Letten Cheney, Dorset
Johanna Maria DENNEHY bc1837 Lambeth
Annie French Marie DENNEHY bc1839 London
Emma WHEELER bc1846 Harefield, Middlesex
No relationship is given in regards to George and Fanny.
RG10/868
Folio 89
Page 15
Stephen
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Smith (Lancashire), McKenna (Ireland/Liverpool/Leyland), Maynard (Hertfordshire/London/Preston), Ricketts (Gloucestershire/Wigan/Preston), Scowcroft (Preston), Harling (N. Yorkshire/Lancashire), Willis (Preston), Clegg (Manchester/Preston), Dodd (Wigan/Cheshire), Alston (Lancashire), Hulks (Hertfordshire), Nicholson (Co Mayo, Ireland/Lancashire), Brown (Co Tipperary, Ireland/Lancashire), Wilson (Kendal) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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XPhile2868
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Richard and Lydia -
Litton Cheney
Richard MELLISH bc1827 Powerstock, Dorset (Head) Ag Lab
Lydia MELLISH bc1828 Swyre, Dorset (Spouse) Labourer's Wife
Rachel MELLISH bc1850 Litton Cheney (Daughter) Domestic Servant
Walter G MELLISH bc1856 Richmond (Son) Ag Lab
Isaac Fry MELLISH bc1858 Richmond (Son) Ag Lab
Matilda MELLISH bc1861 Litton Cheney (Daughter) Scholar
Clara MELLISH bc1863 Long Bredy, Dorset (Daughter) Scholar
Alice MELLISH bc1865 Long Bredy (Daughter) Scholar
William MELLISH bc1866 Long Bredy (Son) Scholar
Mary MELLISH bc1869 Long Bredy (Daughter)
Ernest MELLISH bc1869 Long Bredy (Son)
RG10/2027
Folio 117
Page 10
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Smith (Lancashire), McKenna (Ireland/Liverpool/Leyland), Maynard (Hertfordshire/London/Preston), Ricketts (Gloucestershire/Wigan/Preston), Scowcroft (Preston), Harling (N. Yorkshire/Lancashire), Willis (Preston), Clegg (Manchester/Preston), Dodd (Wigan/Cheshire), Alston (Lancashire), Hulks (Hertfordshire), Nicholson (Co Mayo, Ireland/Lancashire), Brown (Co Tipperary, Ireland/Lancashire), Wilson (Kendal) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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here are the younger childrens baptisms
all baptised at long bredy dorset to richard mellish and lydia-
clara bapt 6th jan 1863
alice louisa bapt 2nd oct 1864
william joseph bapt 7th march 1866
ernest albert bapt 18th aug 1867
mary eliza bapt 7th dec 1868
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alli
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i have this marriage for sister matilda-
matilda salina mellish married frank collins 7th sept 1880 richmond surrey st johns.brides father richard mellish and grooms father william collins.brides age 19yrs and grooms age 21yrs
also brother walter-
walter george mellish married sarah alexander 14th june 1876 st johns richmond surrey.grooms father richard mellish and brides father robert alexander
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annie elizabeth jane mellish married charles edward weaver 25th dec 1787 st johns richmond.brides father richard mellish and grooms father william weaver.brides age 19yrs and grooms age 20yrs
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alli
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these 3 are all baptised st johns richmond surrey-
frances ann mellish born 13th feb 1854 bapt 2nd april 1854
parents listed as richard mellish and lydia
walter george mellish born 10th sept 1855 bapt 7th oct 1855
parents listed as richard mellish and elizabeth
isaac fry mellish born 25th sept 1857 bapt 6th dec 1857 parents listed as richard mellish and lydia.
now i dont know if the elizabeth is a transcription error but it definately states elizabeth
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alli
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richard mellish married lydia northover june qtr 1848 bridport district
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alli
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Hi Alli,
Wow, you have been busy !!!! Thanks very much for all this - I did have some parts of some of the details, but this rounds it out nicely !
Now here's a little conundrum for you:
Frances Ann Mellish b 1854 Richmond Surrey - sometimes she gives her place of birth as Richmond Surrey, other times as various bits of Dorset (her family came from Litton Cheney). I've got her in 1861 & 1871, but then it gets a bit complicated ! Another rootschatter has found a marriage of a Frances Ann in Richmond to a James Edwards, and they are in 1881 with two children. However, yet another rootschatter has a birth certificate that gives mothers name as Frances nee Mellish, and her husband is a William Clarke. There is a family of William, Frances and children in 1891 living in Farnborough Hants, when Frances gives Dorset as place of birth. Just to further muddy the waters, Frances had an older sister called Fanny, who is my connection, who was born in Dorset, but was married to Ambrose Selby and is in 1891 with him.
So, what I/we need to know is:- can anyone find a marriage between a William Clarke & a Frances Mellish; or possibly a Frances Edwards (on the basis that maybe James & the first children died.....  )
Do James Edwards & a wife feature in 1891 ?
Are there any baptisms of children called Henry or Edith Clarke (I found Jun 1884 Clarke James Henry Farnham 2a 126 and Sep 1890 Clarke Edith Jane Farnham 2a 1_6 which I think are the right two) - I think there are also children called Maud and Elizabeth.
I'm spending far too much time on this, but it's really bugging me 
Cheers,
Chris
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hi chris
living in richmond surrey in 1891-
james edwards 39yrs married general labourer born yately hampshire
walter 17yrs son erand boy born richmond
alice 12yrs daughter born richmond
SOURCE INFO-RG12-621
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defiantely stares married but wife frances not at home
here they are in 1901-
living in richmond
james edwards 50yrs widower labourer born yately hampshire
alice 22yrs unmarried daughter housemaid born richmond
hilda stroad 12yrs visitor born richmond surrey
SOURCE INFO-RG13-676
FOLIO-25
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going to see if i can find her death
regards
alli
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james edwards married frances ann melish march 1874 richmond surrey vol 2a page 386
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i see you say that your fanny married ambrose selby??
i see a marriage for an ambrose selby and a fanny lawson but not a fanny mellish was your girl married before??
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Hi Alli,
To answer your last post first, Fanny nee Lawson died Jun Q 1882 , and Ambrose promptly re-married in JunQ 1882 Ringwood (Hants) to Fanny Mellish !! She was a 30 year old spinster living with her parents & family in 1881 in Swanage Dorset - not far from Ambrose & Fanny 1 ! This led to all sorts of confusion cos Ambrose was always there with his wife Fanny, but the ages didn't fit !!!
It's interesting to see that Frances wasn't at home in 1891 - maybe she did run off with a handsome soldier after all !!!! By 1901 I expect James Edwards had decided she might as well be dead, although as she hasn't been found then and her younger (Clarke) children (assuming it's the same person !) were pauper children in a school, Frances could have been (not found tho !)
I had a look on FreeBMD for Frances death under Clarke, Clark, and Edwards, but the only one of anywhere near the right age was in Sculcoates (Lincs?), and I can't imagine why she would be there !! It's beginning to look as tho we'll never know exactly what happened !
Cheers,
Chris
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Hi Chris
Just searching for Mellish references on the internet and came across this post. Richard and Lydia Mellish are my 2 x great grandparents. Their daughter Alice married my great grandfather Amos Smith in Swanage, Dorset in 1899.
I believe I now have the marriage details of all the siblings. Fanny died in her 90s in or around East Sheen, and from what you say she might be an ancestor of yours. I too can't find what happened to Frances although strangely enough some of my relatives here in Dorset did keep in touch with her grandchildren into the 1950s.
I've got some old photos and believe that one may show Lydia, who died in Swanage in 1912. Do you have a picture of Fanny?
It would be great to swap more information, so let me know if you want to know about any of the other family members.
Best wishes
Martin
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