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newburychap
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What happens when your pic's are put on 'puta, back at home and they are'nt there, for whatever reason.
Personally I check the photo in camera before I pay for it - may even download it onto a laptop while I'm in the BRO.
I am sure they will say that the picture taking is at your risk - I guess they are charging you for access to the document(s) and almost certainly won't guarantee the quality of the results.
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Currently researching: Newbury pubs & inns - the buildings, breweries and publican families. Member of Newbury District Field Club - www.ndfc.org.uk |
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newburychap
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Hi Newbury chap, The access is to documents is for free? Would we buy anything at our own risk from anywhere  Obtaining an image is finalised when you 'see' the result image. If it's blurred or 'not there' for what ever reason, the purchase has not happened/taken place. I would like to know how the customer rights on purchases work here. Are BRO pulling a fast one?
Don't get me wrong - I would far rather not pay the £2. However, other ROs charge for camera use (Bucks for one) so I would hope they have thougt the legal issues through. At a guess I would surmise that they would argue that they are charging to allow you to do something beyond the norm.
You obviously view it as a charge for the picture - they would view it as a charge to allow you to take the photograph. Charging gives them the opportunity to a) get you to sign a copyright commitment and b) to check that the document is okay to copy (some owners do not allow copying). Of course they could get you to fill in the form and not charge - but they could also argue that the staff time taken in sorting out the form is what they are charging for.
Why don't you drop them an email and ask the basis for the charge? It would be interesting the see their response to your points.
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Currently researching: Newbury pubs & inns - the buildings, breweries and publican families. Member of Newbury District Field Club - www.ndfc.org.uk |
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ThatIsRidiculous
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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"What Dr. Durant almost certainly does not want is images of Berkshire parish registers on CD - once digitised the copyright will be almost impossible to enforce."
Ancestry.com, Scotlandspeople have this "problem."Oh do I pity them. The poor folks at these sites are bleeding money so badly - that I've chosen to voluntarily forgo that cup of coffee every day to send them some assistance. Its such a problem that new companies want to get a slice of the "loss leader pie."
Crazy world we live in huh?
Dr. Durant's statement is one I'd expect to hear from an officials in Botswana. It is a cruel act of self subordination - undermining their own ability to make money from the registers.
Sure - they might see a reduction of income per person from a handful of customers, but they loose thousands of customers that would pay handful of money each, but a lot more in total.
But the real delight is that we don't need to pay tribute to these dignified dimwits. Most of these books have been published already in some form or the other and are landing up on Internet sites everywhere free of charge.
The pirates treasure parish chest train has left the building. Such a shame.
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bedfordshire boy
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Just found this thread. Very interesting!
Going back to Jill Russ's post # 48. Both Beds & Luton Archives & Records Service (BLARS) and Beds FHS sell the microfiche transcripts of all Beds parishes (which go from the start of the PR to 1812). In addition BLARS sells the same transcripts in book form
David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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stonechat
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It's good to see a thread that is examining these issues.
It seems to me that every county has its own different situation
I used to enjoy those records previously on the FFHS website, which will presumably not see the light of day again.
It does the that the County Archivist is making decisions that are not in the interest of many of his best 'customers'
It would be good if he were more open to outside views, and consulted before making decisions such as some other archives have done
Bob
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jillruss
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Gt Gt Grandfather Shepherd from Aberdeen 1827-1910
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On a positive note - Berks FHS have now launched a Marriage Database which you can request (paid) searches of. Coverage is patchy so best to check first if the parishes and dates you're interested in are included.
Still nothing on the baptism front.
I'm constantly frustrated by the lack of Berkshire information which is available to those of us who live nowhere near their Archives. I don't realistically expect them to launch parish registers onto the internet, free for all to view. However, I do think that this particular Archivist (and he's probably not alone) should join us in the 21st century. What's wrong with publishing your PRs on CD/DVD like Oxfordshire do - you're not telling me that they don't garner one heck of a revenue from them.
Instead, us 'foreigners' (I come from Yorkshire!) are supposed to be mollified by being told that we can pay for research through the Archives. I was recently quoted £20 for a look up for baptisms for one surname in one parish over a less than 20 year period - the parish is not a particularly large one. I've done look ups at my own RO so I know of what I speak(!) and it would probably have taken me less than 15 minutes.
Fortunately a fellow Rootschatter who lives down there did the look up for me.
If it's not against the Rootschat Code of Ethics etc, why don't we try to fix up a Rootschat Look Up Committee consisting of people who will do free look ups in particular counties - always within reason, of course i.e. no blanket searches or vague 'could be's'.
Would it be possible? As I say, I do it already in my county and I know a few others who do the same in theirs. Or is it better to keep these things on an ad hoc basis? 
In the meantime...how old is this Archivist? Any chance of him retiring in the not too distant future? 
Jill
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Abiam
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It's that time of year again!
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Also having many Berkshire ancestors I have to agree with you, jillruss.
Spain, where I am, or Yorkshire it is so hard to find anything in Berkshire. I don't understand why they can't produce CD's for sale as other counties do.
I can't afford their expensive searches and therefore they receive nothing from me and I'm sure many others are in the same position.
I am sure there are many frustrated Berkshire searchers out there!
Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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stonechat
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Both Bucks and Berks didn't go over from familyhistoryonline to FMP
I was watching the space, but it does appear that Berks won't go onto FMP now.
The Sarum marriage licence bonds are still there, which do have marriages from some of my Berks ancestors (improbably even places like Winkfield were in the Diocese of Salisbury)
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behindthefrogs
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Six parishes in East Bekshire were in the 18th century part of Wiltshire namely Wokingham, Sandhurst, Hurst, Sonning, Rushcombe and Arborfield. Three others Sunninghill, Blewbury and Welford were also peculiars of the Dean of Sarum. Winkfield never was. However the archdeaconery of Berkshire used to belong to the diocese of Salisbury until it was transferred to Oxford in 1834.
As a result many of the parish records including I believe some of the bishop's transcripts were in Wiltshire record office.
There is still a boundary stone opposite the entrance to All Saints Church in Wokingham marking the boundary betwen Berkshire and Wiltshire.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Awful thought.
Hello Folks,