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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #75 on: Saturday 27 June 09 08:48 UTC (UK) »

Just to clarify when I referred to the parish records of the "Wiltshire parishes" I was thinking beyond the parish registers which I realized are in Berkshire Record Office.  For example I believe any wills are in the Wilts record office and I am not sure where any contents of the parish chest  may have finished up although Berks Record Office is more likely.

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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #76 on: Saturday 27 June 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »



And the Berkshire Marriage Index  is not that 'patchy' - it is almost complete from the earliest registers to 1837. However, it does not include parishes moved to Oxfordshire in 1974 (those are in OFHS's North Berkshire Marriage Index).


I keep checking the Berks FHS website marriage database for marriages in some of the parishes I'm interested in (e.g Waltham St Lawrence). A lot of them have later years covered but have earlier years decribed as still to be checked and then added to the database. That's why I used the word 'patchy'.

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Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
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Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
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Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 11:47 UTC (UK) »

I have 25% from my tree from Hungerford, Coleshill, Bisham, Tilehurst, Cookham, Reading (sts Mary, Giles, Lawrence, Greyfriars etc).  Some of the Records are on the IGI e.g. St Mary but not St Lawrence and then only in their abbreviated form e.g. no occupations, father's and occupations, witnesses and virtually no burials.
It would be nice to buy CDs if available, but usually too expensive as most people only stayed in one parish for a couple of generations and then moved on, so that a personal search is the only viable solution. 
However, as both the BRO and the FHS building are only open during the working week, I can never get there.  Other offices such as Rotherham or Birmingham or Wiltshire or Oxfordshire can do it, so why not Berkshire?  They do it by closing to the public on quiet days such as Monday or Tuesday.  If I can't see data on the net or buy reasonably priced data discs or booklets, the information is effectively denied to me, which runs contrary to the spirit of Freedom of Information.  Why should information only be limited to the retired, the student, the shift worker or the unemployed?

Presumably the BRO will quote lack of resources - it doesn't say much much for Berkshire's priorities and quoting back the comments about a lack of retired people, do we have then to think that the county is only populated by  young money-grabbers who resent every penny of money spent on libraries but who will be save the county on free bus passes, social services and care home expenditure by emigrating when they retire?  Aren't local government supposed to serve the populace that pay for them?



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behindthefrogs
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 12:21 UTC (UK) »

Berkshire FHS search rooms are open on the 2nd and 4th Sundays of the month from 11.00 to 4.00.

Have you checked their web site for details of CDs etc. which can be purchased?

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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 13:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello Annoyed Warwick, I'm with you all the way. They are so behind the times, it's unbelievable. Thank goodness my mum comes from Kent.....  Cheesy

  Cool Anyway, I go home now and then to visit family... and my rucksack is full of look up's for people. Send me a PM and I'll do what I can..   Tongue

Regards, Lesanne.
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »

I have a very small Berks branch - my gt gt gt grandfather was from Winkfield

I have managed one visit to BRO to date

When the Berks marriage index was online at familyhistoryonline, I found a couple of marriages.

I have been pretty much deadlocked for a long time. I have one couple that married at Clewer, and I bought the CD, but neither come from there. My one hop is that a marriage licence will be at BRO so I can find where they are from

So the Berks FHS room is unlikely to help me, just the BRO

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 21:22 UTC (UK) »

Berks FHS has a large number of fiches of Sarum Marriage Licence Bonds for sale and these include Berkshire.  Copies of the fiches which it sells are usually available for use in its search rooms.

I think that the originals of these and any similar Berkshire records including wills, will be in Wiltshire Record Office rather than the BRO as most of Berkshire was in the diocese of Sarum until the middle of the 19th century.  The advantage is that Wiltshire FHS has transcribed many of them.

This of course does not apply to the parish records.

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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 11 August 09 23:56 UTC (UK) »

Berks FHS has a large number of fiches of Sarum Marriage Licence Bonds for sale and these include Berkshire.  Copies of the fiches which it sells are usually available for use in its search rooms.

These are also available on CD from Wilts FHS. They are the bonds/allegations held in the WSRO, I would be surprised if the BRO don't have a load of them (to be honest I have never had the need to check their holding).

I think that the originals of these and any similar Berkshire records including wills, will be in Wiltshire Record Office rather than the BRO as most of Berkshire was in the diocese of Sarum until the middle of the 19th century.  The advantage is that Wiltshire FHS has transcribed many of them.
Most Berkshire wills are at the BRO - WSRO only have the Diocesan and most of the Peculiars. Needless to say TNA have the Archdiocesan wills (PCC).
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #83 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 05:25 UTC (UK) »

The Sarum marriage licence bonds DID transfer from Familyhistoryonline to Findmypast. unlike the Berks Marriage Index
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 06 September 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »

These are also available on CD from Wilts FHS. They are the bonds/allegations held in the WSRO, I would be surprised if the BRO don't have a load of them (to be honest I have never had the need to check their holding).
The Berks RO has a card index to the marriage licence bonds/allegations for the Archdeaconry of Berkshire. However, the originals were destroyed when a local Reading solicitors' office was bombed in WWII.
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #85 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 19:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I was so excited when I saw the heading Parish Registers and thought at last I can make some progress with my Berkshire ancestors! Then disappointment!

Now I feel proud of Lincolnshire for having archives that are keeping up with the times and allowing FreeReg to transcribe and also for being a very small part of the team that has done the transcriptions - I'm definitely spurred on to get back to my transcribing!
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #86 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 20:03 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy Hello Rely01,
   What names are you looking for and where? I'll keep an eye out for them next time I go home.

Best wishes
Lesanne.

oooo P.S. Welcome to Rootschat...  Cheesy
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #87 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 23:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lesanne

Thanks for the offer.

It's mainly the Hatch family, initially at Shinfield; I've got them from familysearch going back to the marriage of John Hatch and Susannah Holloway 15/7/1765. Shinfield, Berkshire, down to the familysearch info that John Hatch baptised 6/9/1801, Shinfield, Berkshire. parents John Hatch and Sarah. I've not got a marriage for him but his daughter (the first child I have for them) was baptised in Shinfield: Hannah Hatch baptised 3/6/1827, Shinfield, Berkshire. parents John Hatch and Maria. They had other children in Shinfield (found via the census): Charles c1830, Thomas c1833, Phillip c1836, John c1838, Sarah baptised 26/7/1840 (from familysearch), Marianne baptised 6/11/1842 (from familysearch), William c1845 and Frederick c1847.

Thomas is my 3 x great grandfather and I purchased a copy of his marriage certificate: Thomas Hatch, Father John Hatch and Mary Cusden, Father Richard Cusden married 3/1/1859 the Parish Church, St Giles, Reading, Berkshire. (The Cusdens were also from Shinfield and I have baptisms but not marriages from familysearch back to Thomas c1770.)

They then have children born in Pangbourne: Hannah 1859 (goes to Brighton), Mary 1860 (goes to Surrey), John 1862 and Sarah 1865 (think death record: Sarah Jane Hatch born c1865. died aged 15yrs, Sept' qtr 1880, Bradfield District, Berkshire, assume Pangbourne where she was living in 1871 and parents are still living in 1881).

John 1862 is my great great grandfather and I purchased a copy of his marriage certificate too: John Hatch, Father Thomas Hatch and Annie Simmonds, Father Samuel Simmonds married 25/12/1883 at St Jude's Church in the parish of East Bristow, Surrey. They then go to London and have children in various districts!

Our biggest stumbling block at the moment is Annie Simmonds. From the census after she was married, she was born c1859 either READING Berkshire England or Caversham, Oxfordshire, England. We've found some Annie Simmonds on the census but not with a father Samuel like the marriage certificate says and tehre's too many to go ordering the possible birth certificates!  So just checking out this possibility would be a fantastic help without taking up too much of your time, unless any of the rest fits in with what you are already doing.

Thanks so much

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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #88 on: Saturday 21 November 09 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Oxford record office has the Caversham records for both churches up to about 191, so you might find them there (they are open on Saturdays!!). 

Also good news, Berkshire FHS has brought out a CD of Reading St Lawrence registers, so that should fill in a load of gaps.
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Re: Parish Registers
« Reply #89 on: Saturday 21 November 09 22:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Warwick122

thanks for letting me know about Oxford but I don't think I'll be getting there any time soon - I live in North Lincolnshire and had back surgery about 10 weeks ago and only manage to drive to the local town! Trying to find a day when my husband has no meetings at work and can take me to the "local" archives at Lincoln, Doncaster or Beverley is proving impossible at the moment so I think Oxford is out of the question!

Thanks anyway,

Rachel
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