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janan
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Look-up no longer needed - thread now a general Carver ramble and gathering of the clan!
full refs for these people in 1851 in Wrestllingworth. If anyone is able to do that it would be much appreciated.
Young Carver born Wrestlingworth circa 1799 wheelwright
Mercy Carver his wife born Wrestlingworth circa 1801
James Carver born Wrestlingworth circa 1830 Wheelwright
Alice Handley (married James Carver in 1852) born Wrestlingworth circa 1825
Letitia (Letty or even Louisa) Handley Alice's mother born in Cockayne Hatley circa 1806
Any other Carver's in the village would be of interest as they all appear to be related. Thank you in anticipation Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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You were right; there were a lot of Carvers in Wrestlingwoth. I couldn't see Letitia Handley though
1841 HO107/002/26
Alice Handley 15 Female servant born in county, in household of William Twiss 35 clergyman
George Carver 50 wheelwright
Mary Carver 45
Simeon Carver 18 ag lab
Sarah Carver 14
Ann Carver 12
Noah Carver 9
Henry Carver 5
All born in county
Charlotte Carver 25
Edward Carver 5
Jesse Carver 2 (male)
Jonathan carver 1
Mary Carver 20
All born in county
James Carver 30 ag lab
Sophia Carver 25
Amos Carver 9
Jabez Carver 4
All born in county
Thomas Carver 20
Lydia Carver 20
Sarah Carver 1
All born in county
Young Carver 40 Wheelwright
Mercy Carver 40
William Carver 17 ag lab
John Carver 13
James Carver 10
George Carver 7
Alfred Carver 5
Ann Carver 5mths
All born in county
Give me a few minutes and I'll see what I can find in 1861 - I don't have the 1851 yet.
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David
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janan
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Thanks David. Further confirmation at last that Young is almost certainly James' father. Had rather hoped there'd be a wheelwright still alive who could be Young's father, but you can't have everything!  Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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1861 Wrestlingwoth RG9/995
Jesse Carver Sen head married 48 foreman on farm b Wrestlingworth
Charlotte Carver wife 47 b Cambs Morden
Jonathon Carver son unm 21 ag lab b Wrestlingworth
Mary Ann Carver dau 15 straw plaiter b Wrestlingworth
William Carver son 6 scholar b Wrestlingworth
David Carver son 17 ag lab b Wrestlingworth
Young Carver h m 66 wheelwright
Mercy Carver wife 60
Ann Carver dau unm 22 straw plaiter
Alfred Carver son unm 25 wheelwright
Levi Carver son 15 ag lab
All born Wrestlingworth
James Carver h m 30 wheelwright
Alice Carver wife 35
Martha Carver dau 9 scholar
Ruth Carver dau 7 scholar
Robert Carver son 5
Rachel Carver dau 3
John Carver son 1
All born Wrestlingworth
George Carver h m 73 wheelwright
Mary Carver wife 65
Simeon Carver son unm 37 ag lab
Noah Carver son unm 28 ag lab
Eliza Carver grand dau 9
All born Wrestlingworth
Mary Stratton h widow 41 straw plaiter
Ann Carver sister unm 29 straw plaiter
All born Wrestlingworth
Jesse Carver h m 23 ag lab b Wrestlingworth
Elizabeth Carver wife 26 straw plaiter b East Hatley Cambs
Edward Carver son 5 b Wrestlingworth
Ann Carver dau 1 b Wrestlingworth
Thomas Carver h m 41 ag lab
Sofia Carver wife 40 straw plaiter
Sarah Carver dau unm 20 straw plaiter
David Carver son 19 ag lab
Matilda Carver dau 16 straw plaiter
Thomas Carver son 13 scholar
Samuel Carver son 11 scholar
George Carver son 5 scholar
All born Wrestlingworth
Hooray, that's all of them! Glad it wasn't a big village!
Regards
David
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janan
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Thanks for that David, very kind of you. I think 1861 must have been a peak year for Carvers. All the best Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Jan
I agree that the James who married Alice in 1852 certainly appears to be Young's son, as the ages fit perfectly. The marriage cert/parish register would ccnfirm this.
Was James christened as a 16 year old in 1846, as there is a christening of James, son of Young and Mercy on the IGI?
Regards
David
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Hi David
Unfortunately James and Alice's marriage certificate confirms nothing as they both declined to give father's details. I've seen the IGI christening and assumed it was as you suggested. That along with James and Alfred Carver being listed, together, in 1890 Kelly's as village wheelwrights and Mercy Carver appearing on 1871 census as Alfred's mother led me to believe Young and Mercy were James' parents. Now your 1841 and 1861 info makes this even more certain. Probably the best I'm going to get until the 1851 census becomes available. Thank you again
Regards Jan 
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Hi
If you find a link between your Carver ancestors and Norfolk, let me know. I thought my family came from E Yorks until I uncovered a couple of brothers had moved there in the 1840s. Their cousin moved to Newcastle at about the same time. This might indicate a propensity to being itinerant within the family and Bedfordshire is much closer.
I have Thomas Carver b1680 at the top of my tree at present, so there is room for somebody to have moved. However, if you know that your family are Beds since the dark ages, kindly disregard this note.
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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janan
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Hi Nick
No Norfolk links that I know of. They are certainly Wrestlingworth bound back to late 18th century. If any links crop up I will let you know.
Happy searching Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Hello again Nick,
I'm posting these families from the 1881 census out of interest really, are they any connection with you? It also explains the reduction of carver's in Wrestlingworth between 1861 and 1881, I wonder why they moved to Yorkshire.  Jan
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas CARVER Head M Male 32 Wreslingworth, Bedford, England Railway Laberour
Elizbth. CARVER Wife M Female 31 Wreslingworth, Bedford, England Wife
Thomas William CARVER Son Male 13 Wreslingworth, Bedford, England Scholar
Matilda Jane CARVER Daug Female 7 Leeds, York, England Scholar
Ada Emma CARVER Daug Female 4 Castleford, York, England Scholar
Thomas Hy. CARVER Son Male 2 Walpole, Norfolk, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Lawnes Lane
Census Place Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342104
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4575 / 123
Page Number 61
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Wm. CARVER Head M Male 26 Restleworth, Bedford, England Filler At Worsted Mill
Ann M. CARVER Wife M Female 27 Dunton, Bedford, England
Mary A. CARVER Daur Female 6 Restleworth, Bedford, England Scholar
Jesse CARVER Son Male 4 Restleworth, Bedford, England
Source Information:
Dwelling 55 Wilberforce St
Census Place Pudsey, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342074
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4484 / 35
Page Number 16
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Lydia CARVER Head W Female 60 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England
Sarah A. CARVER Dau U Female 40 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England
David CARVER Son U Male 39 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England Labourer At Furnaces (I)
George CARVER Son U Male 24 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England Labourer On Railway
Ellen CARVER Dau U Female 19 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England
Frederick O. CARVER Son U Male 14 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Belle Vue Terrace
Census Place East Ardsley, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342106
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4583 / 91
Page Number 5
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Levi CARVER Head M Male 34 Wrestlingworth, Bedford, England Labourer At Furnaces (Iron)
Ann CARVER Wife M Female 38 Tadlow, Cambridge, England
Samuel CARVER Son Male 15 Potton, Bedford, England Labourer At Colliery
Maria CARVER Dau Female 10 Wrenthorpe, York, England Scholar
Agnes CARVER Dau Female 9 Wrenthorpe, York, England Scholar
Jane CARVER Dau Female 7 Wrenthorpe, York, England Scholar
Ruth CARVER Dau Female 5 Denby Main, York, England Scholar
Martha CARVER Dau Female 3 Wrenthorpe, York, England
Levi CARVER Son Male 2 Wrenthorpe, York, England
Source Information:
Dwelling Bullocks Row
Census Place East Ardsley, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342106
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4583 / 111
Page Number 46
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Jan
Thanks for this. There are quite a few W Yorks Carvers that I have not been able to link to our family - perhaps they all come from Beds? My Carvers are mainly in the E Yorks area, but John Carver who moved up to Yorkshire in the late 1830s (current assumption) was living in the city of York when he married in 1840.
There are two strands of Carvers in Norfolk - tradespeople from Norwich and agricultural people from outside. The two may be linked, but if so it is back before the 17th century. I like to try and make sure that anyone researching the name is aware of these facts as although no link may be apparent at present, one might emerge in the future.
Good hunting
Nick
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E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell
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Thanks Nick, I'll keep an eye open for Norfolk links. Happy searching Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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1851 Census Index only
Wrestlingworth Ho 107/1753 B’wade 180/1/12 folios 249-267 Ed 12
Name, Age, Birthplace, ref no.
CARVER
Noah 18 WRE 1
Lydia 19 Cam 2
William 69 WRE 14
Hannah 59 Cam 14
Emma 18 Cam 14
Jane 16 Cam 14
Dan 12 WRE 14
Thomas 35 WRE 16
Lydia 29 WRE 16
Sarah 10 WRE 16
David 8 WRE 16
Matilda 5 WRE 16
Thomas 3 WRE 16
Sam 1m WRE 16
George 64 WRE 19
Mary 57 WRE 19
Simeon 25 WRE 19
Ann 22 WRE 19
Henry 15 WRE 19
Jesse 38 WRE 23
Charlotte 35 Cam 23
Edward 15 WRE 23
Jesse 12 WRE 23
Jonathan 11 WRE 23
David 7 WRE 23
Mary Ann 5 WRE 24
Young 56 WRE 26
Mercy 50 WRE 26
John 23 WRE 26
James 21 WRE 26
George 19 WRE 26
Alfred 16 WRE 26
Ann 10 WRE 26
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Hi Criggy,
Thanks for that.  Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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Hi Jan, not sure if this will be of any use but from parish registers which are in local library..........only up to 1812.
Sutton Parish Register.
Baptisms.
9/10/1682 Wm s of Peter/Joan Carver.
16/3/1685 Eliz d of Peter/Joan Carver.
11/3/1689 Alice d of Peter/Joan Carver.
Marriage
25/10/1551 Chris Carver to Isabel Norman.
Burials
None.
Cockayne Hatley Parish Register
Baptisms
11/12/1783 Wm s of Jn/Eliz Carver.
Marriage
25/6/1781 Jn Carver to Eliz Merrington.
Burials
None.
Wrestlingworth Parish Register
Baptisms
23/6/1785 Jn s of Jn/Eliz Carver
14/10/1788 Geo s of Jn/Eliz Carver
29/3/1791 Mary d of Jn/Eliz Calver
3/8/1794 Simeon s of Jn/Eliz Calver
17/3/1799 Young s of Jn/Eliz Carver
17/3/1799 Jane d of Jn/Eliz Carver
12/10/1806 Ann d of Thos/Eliz Carver
Marriage
7/4/1805 Wm Carver(Bassingbourn Cambs) to Eliz Bird
Burials
6/2/1782 Jn Carver inf
30/11/1801 Eliz Carver
14/3/1802 Jesse Carver
31/7/1809 Eliz Carver
Eyeworth Parish Register
Baptism
None
Marriages
4/6/1712 Thos Browne to Alice Carver (of Dunton)
28/3/1812 Jn Carver of Wrestlingworth to Martha Mitchel
Burials
None
Confirms the bap of Young Carver and the marriage of his parents.
Those are all the entries in the PR's to 1812 for each parish. Unless it says otherwise the partners in the marriage are resident of the parish.
Susan
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