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Poddington(Puddington)
« on: Wednesday 28 February 07 11:08 UTC (UK) »

Have just found that my family(RATCLIFFE) came from Puddington as anyone any info as to where tis is or is now Poddington the new spelling .I believe they moved to Eaton -Socon early 1800s any help welcome   ACKY
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 12:02 UTC (UK) »

Yes, I think you are correct - Podington today.... Puddington gets a few hits in Google - and appears on the census years as a Parish at least till 1861. 1901 shows as Podington.
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 February 07 12:54 UTC (UK) »

genuki is always a good site to look for place name information:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BDF/Podington/index.html

Podington is about 15 miles west of Eaton Socon

If you use the Hugh Wallis site at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle
you can go straight into the IGI to pick out the Ratcliffe entries in the two parishes. It makes it much easier to search for names where you know the parish.

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 March 07 15:11 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone look up records for Thomas  Ratcliffe /elizabeth and daughter Mary but no records of the marriage in Puddington HELP    AAACKY
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 March 07 15:34 UTC (UK) »

Give us a likely date!

PS Is Mary the one who was baptised in Poddington on 1 Nov 1811, dau of Thomas and Elizabeth? This is on the IGI
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 March 07 16:04 UTC (UK) »

Virtually all of Beds pre 1812 has been extracted onto the IGI, so if it's not there, it can often  mean that the marriage took place in another county. Podington is only a mile from the Northants county boundary - I would try a request on the Northants board for a look up in Northants Marriage Index for a marriage 1811 or before

What makes you think they moved to Eaton Socon?

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 March 07 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Great idea ,as to moving toEaton-Socon,Mary had a daughter (Jane)!817who had a daughter (Ellen) who was my g/fathers mother all at Eaton-Socon  ACKY Huh
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 March 07 17:57 UTC (UK) »

Something here is out of kilter, or else I'm missing something.

Unless Mary was at least 10 when she was baptised in Podington in 1811 she can't have been the mother of Jane baptised in 1817 in Eaton Socon.

Did Jane marry? (Samuel Ladds?)  Do you know what happened to Mary? Have you found any of them in censuses? If Ellen was illegitimate I think I've found the family in 1851, which if correct will put paid to Poddington.

I am concerned that you might be going down the wrong track

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 March 07 15:17 UTC (UK) »

Acky,  Interesting to note that on the Poddington PR index, with Ratcliffe (& variants) they group the name RATLEY/RATELY,  so consider the following ...

Poddington Burials

26/NOV/1810 - Joel son of Thos & Eliz Ratley, inf

28/NOV/1811 - Eliz  wife of Thos Ratley, labr

22/DEC/1811 - Mary  daughter of Thos Ratley, labr 

Regards John

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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 March 07 17:11 UTC (UK) »

David,oops you may be right.1881census ,mary 95 livingwith  ellen now married to c lowe.mary born 1786,1871 census mary, pauper.Ellen born 1842 mother Jane born1817
where was mary born?1881 census says EatonSocon.
any ideas  ACKY
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 March 07 19:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Acky

When I saw John's post it confirmed my suspicions - forget Podington!

I believe this is your Ratcliffe family in 1851
HO107/1750 folio 337
Village of Wyboston, parish of Eaton Socon
Mary Rotly head unmarried 59 no occupation
Thomas Rotly brother unmarr 45 Lab
Jane Rotly dau unm 34 lacemaker
Susan Rotly grand dau 14 lace maker
George Rotly grandson 11 lab
Ellen Rotly grand dau 8
All born Eaton Socon

They are all indexed as Rolly, with Mary as Marly.

This seems to fix them all as being from Eaton Socon.

1861
RG(/984 folio 74A
Wyboston, Eaton Socon Beds
Mary Radcliffe head unmarried 69 washerwoman
Thomas Radcliffe brother unmarr 56 Ag Lab
George Radcliffe grandson unmarr 22 ag lab
Ellen Radcliffe grand dau unmarr 19 Lace maker
Mary J Radcliffe Gt grand dau 2 days
All born Eaton Socon

1841 (indexed as Rusheff) Not very clear on Ancestry but better on the CDrom
HO107/1/3 folio 11A
Little End Eaton Socon
Mary Ratcliffe 45 laundress
Thomas Ratcliffe 30 ag Lab
Jane Ratcliffe 20
Susan Ratcliffe 5
George Ratcliffe 2
Susan Oakley 10  (although indexed as 40!). * see below. She might be the key
All born in Beds

The problem is that I can't see Mary or Thomas's baptisms in Eaton Socon, and I've been through all the R's as spelling of Ratcliffe seems to be a bit variable.

A Mary Ratcliffe was buried on 23 Mar 1887 age 101 (!) and  a Thomas Ratcliffe age 78 on 12 Oct 1874, both at Eaton Socon.

I thought at first that Susan Ratcliffe born 1836/7 was another daughter of Jane, but now I think probably not. There's a baptism of Susan Ratcliffe on the IGI in ES on 16 April 1837 daughter of Edmond and Mary.

* There is a Susan Oakley baptised in ES in 1832 parents James and Sarah, and there's a marriage in ES of James Oakley and Sarah Rakliff on 13 Sept. 1827. There's a baptism of Sar Ratliff on the IGI on 26 Jan 1806 at ES dau of Harding Ratliff and Mary.

More when I've finished the bedtime story for my nipper!

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 March 07 20:25 UTC (UK) »

To continue - and I must stress that this is all speculative
Harding Radcliffe was buried at ES on 28 Apr 1829 age 82
A Mary Radliffe was buried on 13 Mar 1810.

There's a marriage in ES on 9 Dec 1789 between Harding Rudley and Mary Thorn. Bet it's him!

Harding and Mary baptised the following children in ES
John Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797
Rebecca Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797
Samuel Radley 27 Feb 1791
Sarah Ratliff 26 Jan 1806

I can't see that there were any other families in Eaton Socon 1790-1820, and there are no other Radcliffe burials that I've not given you.

I think that Thomas and Mary were probably children of Harding and Mary. Possibly Edmond too although I can find no other reference to him.

Proving it is another matter. As I said at the start, it's all speculation

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 March 07 16:31 UTC (UK) »

What would we do with out Roots chat, Cheesy will have sit and digest it all later  Huh.Thanks again  David, will come back ACKY Shocked
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 March 07 18:19 UTC (UK) »

A bit more to add to the indigestion.

Try A2A  - http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/documentxsl.asp?com=1&i=0&nbKey=2&stylesheet=xsl\A2A_com.xsl&keyword=ratcliffe&properties=0601
Bastardy proceedings can be very illuminating!

Beds records can also be searched at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Poddington(Puddington)
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 March 07 19:22 UTC (UK) »

David indigestion much  worse NOW!!!!     ACKY Cry Cry
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