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Have just found that my family(RATCLIFFE) came from Puddington as anyone any info as to where tis is or is now Poddington the new spelling .I believe they moved to Eaton -Socon early 1800s any help welcome ACKY
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Yes, I think you are correct - Podington today.... Puddington gets a few hits in Google - and appears on the census years as a Parish at least till 1861. 1901 shows as Podington.
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acky
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Can anyone look up records for Thomas Ratcliffe /elizabeth and daughter Mary but no records of the marriage in Puddington HELP AAACKY
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Give us a likely date!
PS Is Mary the one who was baptised in Poddington on 1 Nov 1811, dau of Thomas and Elizabeth? This is on the IGI
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Virtually all of Beds pre 1812 has been extracted onto the IGI, so if it's not there, it can often mean that the marriage took place in another county. Podington is only a mile from the Northants county boundary - I would try a request on the Northants board for a look up in Northants Marriage Index for a marriage 1811 or before
What makes you think they moved to Eaton Socon?
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David
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Great idea ,as to moving toEaton-Socon,Mary had a daughter (Jane)!817who had a daughter (Ellen) who was my g/fathers mother all at Eaton-Socon ACKY
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Something here is out of kilter, or else I'm missing something.
Unless Mary was at least 10 when she was baptised in Podington in 1811 she can't have been the mother of Jane baptised in 1817 in Eaton Socon.
Did Jane marry? (Samuel Ladds?) Do you know what happened to Mary? Have you found any of them in censuses? If Ellen was illegitimate I think I've found the family in 1851, which if correct will put paid to Poddington.
I am concerned that you might be going down the wrong track
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David
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David,oops you may be right.1881census ,mary 95 livingwith ellen now married to c lowe.mary born 1786,1871 census mary, pauper.Ellen born 1842 mother Jane born1817 where was mary born?1881 census says EatonSocon. any ideas ACKY
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Hi Acky
When I saw John's post it confirmed my suspicions - forget Podington!
I believe this is your Ratcliffe family in 1851 HO107/1750 folio 337 Village of Wyboston, parish of Eaton Socon Mary Rotly head unmarried 59 no occupation Thomas Rotly brother unmarr 45 Lab Jane Rotly dau unm 34 lacemaker Susan Rotly grand dau 14 lace maker George Rotly grandson 11 lab Ellen Rotly grand dau 8 All born Eaton Socon
They are all indexed as Rolly, with Mary as Marly.
This seems to fix them all as being from Eaton Socon.
1861 RG(/984 folio 74A Wyboston, Eaton Socon Beds Mary Radcliffe head unmarried 69 washerwoman Thomas Radcliffe brother unmarr 56 Ag Lab George Radcliffe grandson unmarr 22 ag lab Ellen Radcliffe grand dau unmarr 19 Lace maker Mary J Radcliffe Gt grand dau 2 days All born Eaton Socon
1841 (indexed as Rusheff) Not very clear on Ancestry but better on the CDrom HO107/1/3 folio 11A Little End Eaton Socon Mary Ratcliffe 45 laundress Thomas Ratcliffe 30 ag Lab Jane Ratcliffe 20 Susan Ratcliffe 5 George Ratcliffe 2 Susan Oakley 10 (although indexed as 40!). * see below. She might be the key All born in Beds
The problem is that I can't see Mary or Thomas's baptisms in Eaton Socon, and I've been through all the R's as spelling of Ratcliffe seems to be a bit variable.
A Mary Ratcliffe was buried on 23 Mar 1887 age 101 (!) and a Thomas Ratcliffe age 78 on 12 Oct 1874, both at Eaton Socon.
I thought at first that Susan Ratcliffe born 1836/7 was another daughter of Jane, but now I think probably not. There's a baptism of Susan Ratcliffe on the IGI in ES on 16 April 1837 daughter of Edmond and Mary.
* There is a Susan Oakley baptised in ES in 1832 parents James and Sarah, and there's a marriage in ES of James Oakley and Sarah Rakliff on 13 Sept. 1827. There's a baptism of Sar Ratliff on the IGI on 26 Jan 1806 at ES dau of Harding Ratliff and Mary.
More when I've finished the bedtime story for my nipper!
David
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To continue - and I must stress that this is all speculative Harding Radcliffe was buried at ES on 28 Apr 1829 age 82 A Mary Radliffe was buried on 13 Mar 1810.
There's a marriage in ES on 9 Dec 1789 between Harding Rudley and Mary Thorn. Bet it's him!
Harding and Mary baptised the following children in ES John Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797 Rebecca Ratcliff 25 Dec 1797 Samuel Radley 27 Feb 1791 Sarah Ratliff 26 Jan 1806
I can't see that there were any other families in Eaton Socon 1790-1820, and there are no other Radcliffe burials that I've not given you.
I think that Thomas and Mary were probably children of Harding and Mary. Possibly Edmond too although I can find no other reference to him.
Proving it is another matter. As I said at the start, it's all speculation
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David
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What would we do with out Roots chat, will have sit and digest it all later .Thanks again David, will come back ACKY
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David indigestion much worse NOW!!!! ACKY
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