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Barnford
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Hello
I am hoping that someone can give me some advice on what my next steps should be or, even better, some clues on this family that will help me discover their origins.
I am looking for the family of William Lawson, who was born in Leicester (according to census) in about 1815, son of George Lawson and Susanna (surname unknown).
I have no trace on George (he died before 1841). Susanna was born in Nottingham according to the 1841 census (HO107/867/7 folio 36 - South Street, Snenton, Notts.
Susannah Lawson 55 laundress Jemima 25 lace maker, Catherine 25 lace maker, Amey 25 dress maker and Eliza 11).
What I have found actually makes things slightly more difficult; it is this mass christening at Radford St Peter's, parents are George Lawson (coach maker) and Susanna:
Catherine LAWSON 29 10 1815, Edward LAWSON 29 10 1815, Eliza LAWSON 29 10 1815, Amy LAWSON 10 10 1815, George LAWSON 29 10 1815, Jemima LAWSON 29 10 1815, Matilda LAWSON C 29 10 1815, Priscilla LAWSON 29 10 1815, William LAWSON 29 10 1815.
I contacted the Nottingham FHS for a copy of the parish baptism registers but they have very little information other than they are all described as FWKs (frame work knitters). I then found out that one reason for these mass christenings was re-settlement in a new parish, a sort of early means-testing. I contacted Nottinghamshire archives but they have no record of a settlement examination or certificate for the Lawson family in Radford.
This has pretty much exhausted my expertise on this search. I am limited by not knowing the actual date and place of birth of the children and the place of marriage and maiden name of the parents. I have managed to construct a credible line for the children of William Lawson's brother Edward but also no exact date and place of birth for him (it's not Nottingham).
I would appreciate any advice on how to progress. I know that the people I am looking for maybe were not born in Nottingham but I suspect Nottingham is where the records are. I suppose what would really help is to find out if it is possible to discover more information from the baptism records or whether what I have from the FHS is all that there is (name of parents, date and place of christening, abode and father's profession).
To add some more complexity to the mix, there are a lot of Lawsons in Nottingham and I have had to be very careful not to go down false trails, hence all this detail.
Thanks in advance
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Lincs: Holton, Brewer, Keal, Blood, Pycock. Notts: Holton, Jones, Lawson, Bull, Brownley. Devon: Gayett(e), Hammond, Jewell, Squire, Lewarn. Cornwall: Rowe, Lewarn(e). Salop: Jones, Beddoes, Rowe. Leics: Rimmington. London: Bryant, Hasted, Reynolds. Scotland: Struthers. N.Ireland: Struthers, Green. Durham: Green, Surrey: Hammond. Ireland: Bryant.
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Heather DD
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Hi Barnford ...I see your problem 
I doubt there would be anything more on the actual baptism records you have.
The main thing I would do is keep plugging away at the children - at least you are blessed with some unusual christian names.
Not sure if you have these but anyway ...
Matilda Lawson married Abraham Isaac Rogers 11/06/1830
Nottingham St Peter
Priscilla Lawson m John Hawkins Sneinton 17/11/1833
I can only see Priscilla in 1841 and she is born out of county.
Matilda is around in 1851 and 1861, birth year c1805. In 1861 she gives birthplace as Leicester, Leicestershire.
I know the 1841 says they were all born in county but I wonder how reliable that is. Have you found any of them after 1841?
Also - have you seen this marriage from Pallots marriage index?
George Lawson and Susanna Riley 15 Mar 1801 Knighton Leics
Leicestershire isn't really my area but I believe Knighton is an area of, or close to, the city of Leicester. personally I'd be tryng to track down Knighton baptism records to see if they are there.
Just a few thoughts!
Heather
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Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood Derbyshire: Starbrook Somerset: Willmott, Elliott Cork:Driscoll, Murphy London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman London Kent:Cheesman Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Barnford
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Thanks very much - that certainly gives me a few leads, especially with the Leicester connections and I will follow up with the Notts marriages. I take your point about the reliability of information on the 1841 census. I have carried out some checks on the unusual names both for death and marriage and had found the possible Abraham Rogers marriage connection but not progressed it. The George marriage looks interesting.
My understanding is that pre-1837 there were only baptism records and that date and place of birth would only be recorded as part of that baptism record. Is it likely they would have been baptised twice? If not, then the only birth information would be the Radford christenings and the census information.
I am fortunate to have access to a substantial one name study website for the Lawsons. My family is new research for them at the moment but I hope that, at some stage, it will link in with some existing research
Thanks again
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Lincs: Holton, Brewer, Keal, Blood, Pycock. Notts: Holton, Jones, Lawson, Bull, Brownley. Devon: Gayett(e), Hammond, Jewell, Squire, Lewarn. Cornwall: Rowe, Lewarn(e). Salop: Jones, Beddoes, Rowe. Leics: Rimmington. London: Bryant, Hasted, Reynolds. Scotland: Struthers. N.Ireland: Struthers, Green. Durham: Green, Surrey: Hammond. Ireland: Bryant.
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Heather DD
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Good morning
It's possible they may have been baptised twice especially if, as was suggested, their mass baptism was because of their arrival in a new parish.
I have a family myself who in 1836 baptised their three children in Stonesby Leicester, when I already had baptisms for their eldest two in their place of birth. I know we're clutching at straws here but I'm a firm believer at keep chipping away and things will fall into place!
Heather
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Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood Derbyshire: Starbrook Somerset: Willmott, Elliott Cork:Driscoll, Murphy London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman London Kent:Cheesman Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Barnford
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Hello
The reason I have not found the George Lawson marriage in the IGI is because it is recorded as Lanson.
I have just checked the Pallot index entry on Ancestry and it looks as if there is a 'w' (for widower) after George's name. Would that interpretation be correct?
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Lincs: Holton, Brewer, Keal, Blood, Pycock. Notts: Holton, Jones, Lawson, Bull, Brownley. Devon: Gayett(e), Hammond, Jewell, Squire, Lewarn. Cornwall: Rowe, Lewarn(e). Salop: Jones, Beddoes, Rowe. Leics: Rimmington. London: Bryant, Hasted, Reynolds. Scotland: Struthers. N.Ireland: Struthers, Green. Durham: Green, Surrey: Hammond. Ireland: Bryant.
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Barnford
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Thanks very much, Mike, for taking the time and trouble to perform this piece of research for me and for the information you have found. It is much appreciated.
Clive
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Lincs: Holton, Brewer, Keal, Blood, Pycock. Notts: Holton, Jones, Lawson, Bull, Brownley. Devon: Gayett(e), Hammond, Jewell, Squire, Lewarn. Cornwall: Rowe, Lewarn(e). Salop: Jones, Beddoes, Rowe. Leics: Rimmington. London: Bryant, Hasted, Reynolds. Scotland: Struthers. N.Ireland: Struthers, Green. Durham: Green, Surrey: Hammond. Ireland: Bryant.
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